NationMaster - Discussion - Greece Profile

Nikos 12th January 2010	Andonis, You're embarrassing the rest of us...
Bella 22nd November 2009	where can i find the ecological footprint?
kostas 1st August 2009	Saying that greeks are steeling makedonia's history is the same like saying that italians are steeling toscana's history or like the germans are steeling the bavarian history...! I 'm originated from central Greece but I spended 9 months living in Thracic city ,Komotene. A city with 65.000 people ,20.000 of them being mouslim. I made many mouslim friends , I even particepated in some celebrations they had! They have muslim schools teaching turkish language(all levels of education) , they have also priest schools , their own muslim cemeteries and of course their own temples(called djamia). And as as a central greek , it was totaly new for me to watch every day , three times per day the muslim priests(hodjas) in all the muslim temples all over the city, at the same time, to sing their hymns(amanes)through loud speakers to the city...! Christians and muslims live with respect for each other in the greek provence of Thrace.
Michael 26th June 2009	of course Great Alexander was Macedonian ,of course Macedonians (Aristoteles, Philippos etc) spoke greek language , of course Macedonians were Greeks. Today slav language-idiom of Skopians have no relationship with Macedonians or Greeks. It is tottaly inappropriate (almost funny) to rumor that skopians are macedonians or greeks. Today skopia has just hijacked the historical term "Macedonia".
Lavinia (Rome, Italy) 3rd September 2008	Alexander The Great is not Greek. He is Makedonian, and Helenism is made up in 19th century. Alexander become Greek in greek books which were given in libraries for free. Greece has stolen Makedonian history and now they are makeing problems to Makedonia. Thats the best evidence that Greece stole the history, the culture from Makedonians. Now Greece also have problems with Albanians, Turks, Bulgarians with Makedonians. If Greece is such a democracy they wont be on such low level of tolerance. Greece is the only country in the world that have problems with all neighbours it's so stupid
Yiannis (Athens) 30th July 2008	Athens has only 745,514 people??? No offense, but when did you get your census? In 1930?
melis cagin (istanbul) 30th December 2007	No matter Greek government constantly argues that there is no Turkish minority within the jurisdiction of Greece, as a matter of fact, THERE ARE people who CONSIDER themselves as "TURK", speak TURKISH, and have faith in Islam. It is not much coincidence that the majority of people in Turkey DO also consider themselves as "Turk", speak "Turkish", and mostly believe in Islam. It is not to say: "See? The territories on which they are living should be annexed to mainland Turkey". It would be no more than saying "Istanbul is in fact Constantinople, and should be handed over to Greeks as it used to be." , i.e. a utopia. In a nutshell, those people who consider themselves as Turkish should be treated accordingly.
Ballogan Cherry (Philippines) 14th August 2007	why is it that there is no structure of Greece government being displayed?there must be a paradigm of their government.
Student (England) 12th February 2007	Why is there nothing about Crete on this page? in fact, there is very little on the entire site!
Anaximandros 17th April 2006	Regarding the former Albania minority of Chameria, none remain today as they were persecuted after the withdrawal of Axis occupation forces from Greece. They had formed militias and levies (The Balik Compeatar) that supported the occupation forces and settled accounts with their Greek neighbors, while the Italian army that attacked Greece in 1940 was augmented by two Albania division, some recruited form among the Chamerian population. Further an SS Brigade (the SS Skanderberg brigade) was formed and manned by Albanians form throughout the Balkans. Some form of reprisals after the liberation was unfortunately unavoidable. However as 50 years have past already since those times the Greek state should consider granting a right of return to any Chamerians or their descendants who wish to so return. As there are already over 700,000 (mostly illegal) Albanians living in Greece many Chamerians have no doubt returned. On the issue of property restitutions some form of resettlement could even help revitalize the lands in southern Epirus, which have been depopulated by internal migration as well as being a humanitarian and worthy goal in and of itself. Finally we should mention that Albania has treated its Greek minority much better than Bulgaria, Romania, and Yugoslavia or of course Turkey. This is not to say there are no problems. Recently Greek minority party offices have been bombed and armed thugs terrorize Greeks into selling and vacating their property with the tacit collusion of the police. However they have not followed Turkey’s policy of pogroms, murder and ethnic cleansing and for this they should be commented.
Anaximandros 17th April 2006	Regarding the Slav Macedonian minority in Northern Greece. In the last election their minority party received 3,000 votes indicating a size of about 10,000-15,000 persons. They are not allowed to broadcast and have education in their language nor create institutions labelled as Macedonian. This is a disgrace for Greece and laws should be amended allowing them native language education and mass media presence. The name issue is more complex. Slav Macedonians were once the dominant element of the area of Macedonia but decades of assimilation efforts by Greeks first, and in the 20th century Bulgarians and Serbs have resulted in the majority of these people adopting either of these aforementioned national identities. The final blow for Slav Macedonians in Greece came after liberation from the Axis, when almost 6,000 of them who had formed gendarmeries used as levies by the Axis occupation forces and engaged in limited ethnic cleansing and score settling operations against their Greek speaking fellow citizens were driven from Greece with their families. This was followed by a similar exodus in 1948 after the end of the Greek Civil War, when the Slav Macedonians had fought with the Greek Communists in exchange for their concision of cessation of parts of Northern Greece to form the core of the new Macedonian state (as per the 1924 Comintern directive, which the Greek communist party, reluctantly and to its eventual detriment, had accepted). The Communist forces were defeated and a new exodus of several thousands Slav guerrillas and their families ensued. Henceforth the Greek state engaged in Hellenising drive on the remaining Slav Macedonian population with schools only teaching Greek and their native language suppressed. As a result the large majority of former Slavic speakers now consider themselves Greeks and only a minority has retained a Macedonian ethnic identity. While I don't condone the practice of burdening an entire nation with the sins of a few tens of thousands, I think that the expulsion of Slav Macedonians from Greece following the end of the Axis occupational and Civil War, was less premeditated ethnic cleansing than overreaction to perceived internal threats, which until the time they were defeated were real enough. At any rate as many Greek communistic have returned from exile after the fall of the Iron Curtain, the Greek state should allow as many of the Slav Macedonian exiles who wish to, the right of return.
filippos 3rd December 2005	I live in Greece all my life(thats 35 years) and i haven't met or heard of a single person stating to belong in an Albanian or slavomacedonian minority.Has any of you any clue?As for Franck,citinzenship is way different than nationality you may have mixed them a little in the USA on your try to create a nation but in europe, where most nations exist for more then 200years, is pretty clear.
filippos 20th November 2005	I am Greek from Thessaloniki and i call myself Thessalonian,Macedonian,Greek as someone from Crete calls himself Cretan and Greek.The question is why should some slav use this term for himself?the Slavs came into Balkan peninsula in 6th century ac.Aren't you proud of your one Slavic origins?you even haven't heard of the name Macedonia before Tito(1944)named your region.Please,get a name (and a life) and we leave you all alone,we don't need you anyway,any slav calling himself a Macedonian is a joke for every educated person.
Denis 19th November 2005	The only country in the world not to admit other languages or nationalities is Greece because it will loose its reputation and its existence, Albanians, Macedonians, Turks and other minorities play a big part in Greece. It makes you think how long can Greece keep it down till minorities speak up for their rights and then Greece will be left nowhere because the fact will show Greece cant keep everyone suffering forever...
Dienekes 15th November 2005	1st of all, "Macedonian" the true Macedonians mixed with ours and the Albanians' ancient ancestors thousands of years ago therefore, your comment is of no relevance.
Emma 27th October 2005	Where can I find the population destribution for Greece on here...
Franck 14th October 2005	Clarification of a simple fact: To be Greek, simply requires one to be recognised as such by the Greek government. One's ancestral lineage is irrelevant, since this precludes a Greek from having multinational ancestry. By logical extension, this principle applies when determining the nationality or nationalities of any other person in the world. Thus, for Alexander to claim there is no Turkish minority in Greece is an absurdity in logic, unless of course his statement is being used for propaganda.
Alexander 8th October 2005	There is no Turkish minority in Greece. There is a Muslim minority however. Not all Muslims are Turks and not all Christians are Greek.The Greek of Thraki were coverted to Islam few hundred years ago,but are not Turkish per se. Their Turkish identity is a propaganda tool used by the Turkish government.
Nikos 7th October 2005	According to Lausane treaty signed in 1923 between Turkey and Greece, there is no Turkish minority in Greece but Muslim minority located only in the area of Thrace (not generally in Northern Greece). The "Turkish speaking Turks" belong to the only officialy recognized minority and many of them are not even of Turkik origin. Concerning the relocated Christians from Anatolia, among them there were many Armenians as well, there are also Kurdish refuges in Greece fleeing from their region after the recent uprising and many other refuges from various nations coming to Greece on the seek of a better future. You definately have to add some fifty languages to the language section....
12th September 2005	What about that Macedonian minority,and Macedonian land in Former Turkish Republic Greece
Konstantin 11th September 2005	Muslims in Greece are about 150,000, or 1.5% of the population (immigrants arriving since 1990 excluded). Almost half of them are Muslim Roma (Gypsies). Of the remaining about 10% speak a language related to Bulgarian(Pomak). The rest, about 70,000 , speak Turkish and consider themselves Turks. Karamanlis, Turkish-speaking Christians from ancient Cappadocia who left Anatolia in 1922, consider themselves Greek, language nonwithstanding, and take a dim view suggestions to the contrary. There are practically no Turks in the islands. There used to be a significant (25,000+) Turkish minority in Rhodes but they were forced to emigrate due to harsh economic repression in the years 1975-1981 when fear of a possible Greco-Turkish war following the Cyprus crisis of 1974 led the Greek government to treat them as a security risk. Greece's entry into the EU in 1981 put a stop to these practices albeit too late for the Rhodes Turks.
Andreas 31st August 2005	According to the Lozanne treaty between Greece and Turkey the only minorities which excluded from the population swap was the Greek minority in Constantinople and the Muslim minority in Thrace (no Turkish minority)
Dimitri 26th August 2005	Greek also have a big Albanian population in norther Greek called also Qameria. It goes down to the Greek city of Arta an old Albanian city.
Yianni 18th August 2005	Well perhaps it is time to teach them the language of the nation:Greek.
Yianni 18th August 2005	Well perhaps it is time to teach them the language of the nation:Greek.
Greg 18th August 2005	Im sorry to disappoint you Dogrucu and Lydian, but Im sure you know it as well, all this Christians that were relocated in Greece were of Greek origin and thus speaking Greek language as their mother one and Turkish as a foreign. 50% or even more of the population of Greece speaks English at a very good level. Do you think we should add English too as a language? Of course not... The proportion of people speaking Turkish is narrowed into those living in Thrace primarily that are Greek born (usually) of Turkish origin... Like the Greeks who still live in Constantinople (now Istanbul) or Minor Asia Turkish born of Greek origin... That's geography, thats life... I live in London now... and with your logic I think we should add in United Kingdom all the languages of the world because I rarely hear any English around... No hard feelings anyway... Citizens of the world primarily, working all together for peace, health, freedom and democracy for everyone!
Kostas 20th July 2005	In case of Turkey you can right that 40% of the population used to speak Greek before they have been wiped out by the official Turkish policy.
5th July 2005	im Thracian Turk..im living in northern Greece.We have no culturel,economic,religion rights.We are guilty because we are Turk! Greece is not democratic country..We are living under pressure.
Dogrucu 2nd July 2005	Turkish speaking Turks in Greece may be about 2 percent. There are also Christians from Anatolia who spoke no Greek but Turkish only, when they had to relocate in Greece after Turkish-Greek War in early 1920s, some of them still live, and many in their families know Turkish.
George 16th June 2005	Only like 1% of Greece's population speaks Turkish.
shona 14th June 2005	i needed info and i didnt get it,so i give this site a 1 out of 10. thee is no information about greeces practices and tradtitions so maybe you could do a bit better!1111
lydian 2nd June 2005	Why don't you write anything about main minority group in Greece? They are Turks in the Northern Greece and the Islands, especially in Rhodes. Muslim and Christian Turks called Karamanlis are the main minority group in Greece. Therefore in language section, you must add Turkish.
kenna 23rd May 2005	What and where are the lakes and rivers of Greece?
Ard 21st April 2005	I think you should have a map of lakes and rivers of Greece.
17th March 2005	The term Caucasian race has in time acquired somewhat different meanings in different contexts.It is popularly used in North America to describe whites of northern, eastern and western European descent, usually excluding Italians, Greeks, Albanians, and Maltese (Mediterraneans)along with North Africans and Middle Easterners.
Breezy 14th March 2005	its really hard to find the things that you are looking for! I tried to look for information on greece but it doesn't give all the information on greece!
Brian 20th January 2005	Isn't Greece a part of the Middle East?
10th December 2004	The term Caucasian race has in time acquired somewhat different meanings in different contexts. It is popularly used in North America to describe whites of northern, eastern and western European descent, usually excluding southern Europeans (often called "Latins") and peoples of Asian, African, or Mediterranean origin. In North America, Caucasian is also used in the broader meaning of "white" especially in government and census forms; see Caucasian type. Others, especially in Eastern Europe, use the term to refer to various ethnic groups living in the Caucasus region; see Peoples of the Caucasus MFO Freedom of Information Act page Privacy Policy © 1997-2004 www.mediterraneanfoundation.org/grecolatin.htm
4th December 2004	Greek hero, Alexander the Great was the founding father of Mediterranean culture whom spread Greek culture around the regions of the world of which he conquered eventually creating Hellenistic culture as the effect of the blend of cultures especially the Persians. Hellenistic culture built the foundation of Mediterranean culture and eventually blended with Roman influences to create modern Greco-Roman culture which connects the cultural traditions of Italy and Greece. MFO Freedom of Information Act page Privacy Policy © 1997-2004 www.mediterraneanfoundation.org/grecolatin.htm
1st December 2004	The term Caucasian race has in time acquired somewhat different meanings in different contexts. It is popularly used in North America to describe whites of northern, eastern and western European descent, usually excluding southern Europeans (often called "Mediterraneans") and peoples of Asian, Native American, African, or Middle Eastern origin. In North America, Caucasian is also used in the broader meaning of "white" especially in government and census forms; see Caucasian type. Others, especially in Eastern Europe, use the term to refer to various ethnic groups living in the Caucasus region; see Peoples of the Caucasus. MFO Freedom of Information Act page Privacy Policy © 1997-2004 www.mediterraneanfoundation.org/grecolatin.htm
Tymen 30th November 2004	When you look at the map, would you really honestly be able to say that Greece has a more then 4 times bigger land-area(sq.km.) as the Netherlands?
Brittany 18th November 2004	There is no information on voting in Greece on this web site

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