NationMaster - Discussion - South Africa Profile

Daniel 14th November 2012	I was born in South Africa and almost died for my country in Angola in 1975 to try to keep the country from falling into the hands of the communist forces that now mismanage South Africa. In 1980 when Rhodesia fell we decided that one day we will be forced to leave. We now live in Michigan in the USA where my 4 grandchildren are growing up safe as can be. God bless America and God please keep my family and friends safe in South Africa. I urge the Western world to please step in and do something before all is lost. There is not one sub Saharan country that is being run successfully by a black government. Most of them can not even survive without Western aid.
Ronel 19th October 2012	Was brutally attacked- 5 times with an axe and nearly beaten to death in my own house- and everyone is still thinking we are safe?!!! It can and will happen to you. I was a liberal, now i am a racist!
Pierre 11th October 2012	Being in the security industry for 20 years, hearing what cust. have to say saddens about their crime experience saddens me. Not too long ago we did not need burglar bars, did not need to lock a door or close windows at night, news of a murder would have made headline news. Now these days just in one week in our area(200 meters radius) was 6 burglaries, 3 people left dead - one for her cell phone. I'm not proudly South African any more
BK. MUKENANI 14th September 2012	Nothing can be achieved here on earth without the will and the grace of God the almighty so let us all put together our trust in him and we will get the lasting solution to the highly escalating crime rate. Regards to all
Howard 26th April 2012	If you would like to look at a fantastic app for crime satas in south africa you should visit this website www.crimestatssa.com
mnqobi dladla 27th March 2012	who is responsible or crime statistic collection in south africa because it like there variety questions about that sinerio?
miyelani 19th March 2012	did social work and social welfare change peoples live with specific reference to the south african scenario?
Taslim Torabally 14th March 2012	I am a Mauritian and at one point in my life I was naturalized and became a South African. I thought everything was fine until the day I got mugged twice at knife point in Jo'burg. My Mauritian South African brother had his house broke into although it was ADT's watch. We still love South Africa and miss a lot. But unfortunately we couldn't cope with the constant fear and stress of being killed one day and we had to sell our house and everything and go away to the U.K. We sleep in peace now and are not nervous anymore.
Safriken 27th December 2011	@SA-B-GREAT & @Paddo, Lovely to hear you have not had anything "bad" happen to you or your family. Sadly others have had things happen to them. Over a period of 25 years(my son's age) our immediate family have had the following done to them: My family: 3 break-ins, 3 bicycles stolen Myself: 2 cars stolen + 1 hi-jacking My wife: 2 cars stolen + 1 violent mugging + 1 attempted vehicle theft My father & brother: 2 break-ins, 1 violent farm attack My sister: 2 break-ins We all live in Fort Knox equivalents; burglar bars, security gates, alarm systems, armed response companies. We have Tracker and Netstar fitted to all vehicles. We do not drive in dubious or semi-dubious areas (day or night). And this all occurred in Cape Town and Johannesburg. And most of this after 1994! In fact prior to 1994 it was 1 bicycle stolen and 2 break-ins.
Jennis 14th September 2011	@South African, didn't you read above? You want provide stats from the saps web site when we know how useless they are, you really think you can rely on the saps data? Read again: "... South Africa is on the Tier 2 Watch List for a fourth consecutive year for its failure to show increasing efforts to address trafficking; the government provided inadequate data in 2007 on trafficking crimes investigated or prosecuted, or on resulting convictions or sentences; it also did not provide information on its efforts to protect victims of trafficking; the country continues to deport and/or prosecute suspected foreign victims without providing appropriate protective services." Another thing.. Given that the South African minister of crime (cele) himself was charged for fraud etc. It is most likely that he played with the numbers for a salary raise. lol
Jennis 14th September 2011	@South African didn't you read above? You want provide stats from the saps web site when we know how useless they are, you really think you can rely on the saps data? Read again: "... South Africa is on the Tier 2 Watch List for a fourth consecutive year for its failure to show increasing efforts to address trafficking; the government provided inadequate data in 2007 on trafficking crimes investigated or prosecuted, or on resulting convictions or sentences; it also did not provide information on its efforts to protect victims of trafficking; the country continues to deport and/or prosecute suspected foreign victims without providing appropriate protective services." Another thing.. Given that the South African minister of crime (cele) himself was charged for fraud etc. It is most likely that he played with the numbers for a salary raise. lol
GodsGift Cole 10th August 2011	First of all i want to thank God for making me an Africa and putting me her in Africa. South Africa i must say is a country that is bless by {GOD} but some people just want to give it bad Name but thats very bad so i love my Africa Grate Africa
Siyabonga 28th July 2011	It surprises me to see that some people are actually excited by the stats that we are seeing. The truth of the matter is we all should be doing our bit in the fight against crime. I means how can you say our country is not for sissies,really now come on guys. Let me impose a changelle to whoever will read this, during your normal day, if you happen to be in a place where you see something happening; try to ensure that it's not crime related because when it happens to you, you would want someone to help you. Lets really think about all our family members that have been affected by crime and i include myself. This makes us different from others, we are the new generation and our parents, grandparents have lost hope in us, how come we are not doing something that will be but at the same time that will change someone's life. How would you feel if someone was alive because of you? yes You. Guys it's true what they say that it begins with you, there is also another maxim that i created and that i tell to my girlfriend and to my friends and that is basically " life is what you make it to be starting with the right attitude".
judith 26th July 2011	why can't we expect the police alone to reduce crime in our country
Dick 26th July 2011	Croime statistics between nations aren't reliable. A lot of crime in RSA gets reported, that's why it features highly on many of the lists. Compare that with Columbia which, despite lalwless conditions that make it hard to keep records, tellingly has a higher murder rate - very easily the most reliable crime bencjmark - yet barely any other crime ends up in it's numbers. You'd have to be very gullible to think all of Columbia's violence is organised drug cartel or guerilla activity, there's a large underclass and random street robbery is probably a bigger problem than it is in RSA for example yet it has 1/9 as many reported, it just doesn't end up in the stats.
Baz 17th July 2011	The whiteman turned Africa into a Nation of slaves.....what do you expect....you get what you deserve.(Ex Rhodesian).
Gerrie 19th June 2011	It shocks me to learn that people still think that what is happening in SA is acceptable. Wake up to the facts. I stil have family living their and I pray every day that they will survive another day in what I like to call " slow moving civil war" .
MELK 15th May 2011	My father was killed for his car last month! Those of you who are 'proudly South African' and choose to turn a blind eye...maybe one day it will be your father?!?! WAKE UP!!! My father was the warmest, most loving husband, dad and grandfather anyone could ever wish for. He always went out of his way to help others, and would never cause harm to any creature. These are only a fraction of the crimes that take place every single day in an otherwise beautiful country. People are afraid to talk about it, because it makes them uncomfortable and gets in the way of daily life... but the government needs to be accountable!!! Don't be so complacent...don't be so blind. This is not a 'normal' way to live - and believe me, it does not happen in other countries. My husband and I left 10 years ago to live in Canada. We lived in hope that one day our parents and family would join us...and be safe. Our hope is lost...
Maxima 11th May 2011	What a load of bull! They don't report all the crime and halve of the dockets just go missing . Wake up SA , this is a second Zimbabwe
SpeakerForChildren 11th April 2011	Thank you for these in detail stats. Just wondering where the stats are for crimes against children. We have a problem here is South Africa, and would have thought that these stats would be made available. I am searching for up to date stats of crimes/abuse against children and am surprised that these stats are not available.
Chrisjan 9th March 2011	This is to Proudly South African and the rest who wants to know. I am a Proud South African as well, but I agree with the people who want to leave SA, to take their skills to another country. Today is 10 March 2011, yesterday's Citizen, 9 March 2011 was a controversial peace about the new labour law/act to be amended to give more work power for other coloreds, but it stated very clearly it is amended to remove the white male domination from the workplace. In all fairness we all must work And I am a victim of crime as well, and sure as nuts, int wasn't a black, brown or indian man, but white men who have hijacked me, according to police it was a syndicate. But I have a 3 year old son, and I will do all in my power to educate him and teach him the right values and to seek employment in another country, because after yesterday's news story I am completely convinced that there is no future for While South African Males, and when they leave they take their children and wives who also have great skills to other countries. Look at Georgia, a country who takes all the white South African Farmers to farm on their land, have made them now the biggest exporter of grain and corn, not South Africa any more. In Afrikaans I always say: "Slim van altyd sy baas" Every Action have a reaction. Will I leave my country? Probably not, i love my country, but if it carries on as it does, by the time my son grows up, there will be no hope for him here, at the moment there is some hope, but only time will tell.
goofy 8th March 2011	i am born here and this place is going to the dogs in every why ,the black man is the down fall .the anc is to blame ,democracy is the best of all the worst political systems,think about this how can nation with so many stupid black poeple who vote decide who is going rule the country.its like tell sipho who works in the garden to go and take a top position as the ceo of aqbsa bank....boo hoo
jabulile 8th March 2011	i believe that the government has not done enough to reduse crime in south africa especially our leaderships are found to be the ones mostly corrupt
felix 13th February 2011	I am a born and bred SOuth African and i wouldnt change any of the experiences i have had in this Country. I argue that we are the most violence ridden country, but rather the country with the most publicised crime rates. You cant step out of the street without some foreign paper smearing our countries name in the mud
GIL 12th February 2011	leave if u want to leave,crime is averywhere.
Luthorian 8th February 2011	Everybody blames crime on apartheid and white racism, when the fact is that all that is long gone, 15 years ago! But the fact that we are all 'free' south africans now, doesn't mean we hate each other any less. The difference is that today the tables have turned, it's not the whites that are the dominant opressors anymore, they have now become the victims.
eaglegirl 7th February 2011	This is so sad.... that's a lot of deaths:(
PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN 7th February 2011	I am a South African and i love my country! In 1994 we overcame Apartheid. In 2010 we became the first African country to host a world cup (during which not a single tourist was harmed despite these statistics). And in 2020 we wish to host the 2020 Olympics. South Africa is coming up in the world It hurts me to see so many South Africans leave. Instead of investing their skills and knowledge in their own country, and bettering their own country, they are choosing to invest it in other countries. How can we, as a Nation, move forward if our own people choose to abandon us? South Africa needs people who want change and who are willing to make that change happen!
Annie 25th January 2011	People must stop saying that "South Africa is such a beautiful country and the best country in the world" - there are many other countries that have beautiful places and what is anyway so "beautiful" here than of the rest of the world? Rather give me a country where it is safer and cleaner to live than in this so-called "beautiful country".
Thank heavens! 16th January 2011	It is so wonderful to sleep without any fear, drive to work without any fear, play outdside with your kids without any fear, and plan your future without any fear! Yes, it IS POSSIBLE! We have left with two suitcases each to the USA in 2002. SA is the most beautiful country with generally the most friendly/humble people, BUT nothing can compare to living in a safe place and secure future. GOD BLESS AMERICA, please help South Africa.
Blackie 15th January 2011	Does anyone know how many Nigerians live in South Africa?
jbird 9th January 2011	its 4.35 am and at the 03.18 i woke up screaming from fears that south africa confirms for me that are real. i am petrified to live here :(
shannon 4th January 2011	we live in this beautiful country called chaos, we endure the horrors & nightmares brought upon us, unlike most of you who had the opportunity to leave not all South Africans are so lucky! We need to unite as human beings & stop throwing the race card trust me the crimminals in this country could careless if you were from Soweto or Houghton...CRIME EFFECTS EVERY SOUTH AFRICAN BLACK OR WHITE! Ps; just incase any of you were wondering I'm white & have endured my own horrors but God's Grace is upon this nation, which seemingly has turned it's back on all morality!
Capetonian born and bred 31st December 2010	SAfrica is the best country on earth despite all its problems. Every country in the world has problems!
johann 21st December 2010	One should not be so blind to see that the ANC government will be in place for a very long time as long as there is hate among races,corrption in high places and bad governance. The reason is This government trife on this thinks. It its imbodiment. If this thinks stop ANC will disappear from the plitical arena.
phlogiston 15th December 2010	Its a genetic thing. Blacks lack the the presence and distribution of cognitive ability to make a technologically-scientifcally based society work. There are also other characterisitic differences that compromise the ability of indigenous black societies to work. In policing, the societal restraints developed to cope with the characteristics of specific populations. Blacks required more rigid and forceful restraints. The idea that one standard could fit all has resulted in criminal activity running amok. More severe punishments and "unenlightened enforcement," such as amputation of a hand or foot for thievery, works in black dominated societies. Such harshness is not necessary in homogenous white societies. Since uniform police enforcement practices were introduced in the United States, and police became less aggressive in relation to minorities, there has been a huge uptake of violent crime. Reality requires enforcement directed to the nature of the society and groups of people within it, requiring restraint.
Dianne 2nd December 2010	I've been living in Australia for the past 4 years. The freedom of movement here is unbelievable. I can sit alone on the beach, go cycling in the countryside...alone and in safety. I can catch public transport without fear, drive my car with the doors unlocked, sleep with my windows open without burgler bars. I can withdraw money from the ATM without worrying that I'll be mugged at knife point etc. Women in particular can thank their lucky stars to be living in this country where they can go about their daily business without fear of being raped and murdered. I left South Africa because I wanted to live in a civilized country, which is not run by bloodthirsty jackels and hyenas who prey daily on innocent people. I want to live in a country where people respect law and order..where the government is held accountable by the electorate for their decisions. I want to go to sleep at night with the confidence that I will wake up in the morning without a knife in my back because some felon has gained access to my property. And most of all, I want to live in a country where the rape of babies is unheard of.
vernon 1st December 2010	reject the system. cant you all see that everything is wrong? Who's in control...they're to blame! Reject the system of human exploitation!
A/C SLATER 1st December 2010	THIS site is a awsome site to use im doing a project on crime in africa and this is the best site iv been on all day.
MR Dj 29th November 2010	I love S.A too to turn my back on it, for those who left the country just because of bad incidents happent to them I feel sorry but individualy I was born & raised here & Im prepared to fight till I die for my beautiful country....PROUDLY SOUTH AFRICAN!!!!!
MR JUNIOR D MAMUSHI 24th November 2010	In reference to the current events related to crime in our country,I may say SA is at least 1 of the safest countries in the world. By that very fact, we as SA inhabitence, we should ensure that all the illegal conducts taking place in our presents,be reported to police. The challenge is,this police takes their time in respond to this issues,of which it gives this perpetrators an opportunity to do as they like and walk away with crucial matters. Never the less,SA police service is very poor,but...
???????????? 24th November 2010	i cannot find what i am looking for. i am looking for how many people have gotten executed this year in south africa!!!!!!!!
SA-B-GREAT 11th November 2010	Funny how people keep refering to South Africa as the most dangerous place in the world, yet for the past 25 years of my life I have only been a victim of crime once where the guys just took my watch, in Australia! Funny how all the tourists never complained about all these 'vicious' South Africans they've encountered during the 2010 world cup. Bad things happen all over the world and are caused by bad individuals, but South Africa remains the warmest place I have ever been to. We have excellent people, great weather, NEVER a natural disaster in my time, A world class infrastructure, and, and, and... South Africa is the place to be.
SA-B-GREAT 11th November 2010	I woke up this morning in South Africa as I have been doing now for 25 years. I drove my car to work and was not hi-jacked, killed or raped. Worked throughout the day and was never held hostage, drove back home and got there safe and sound, as I have doing for the past 25 years! Bad things happen everywhere in the world, it is individuals who do these things, South Africa and its people as a collective is loving, warm people! As an added bonus, here in South Africa we may NEVER have to worry about Volcanoes, hurricanes and all other natural disasters. LOVE BEING HERE!
Coblay 11th November 2010	I love South Africa country But,I am really sad, by south african ANC ledar,s they know,s how they're abusing the refugee peoples.i,m very sorry.
James 7th November 2010	Very sad indeed. I have a website dedicated to crime in South Africa at http://www.sacrime.info
SA 1st November 2010	Crime rates are increasing, life is becoming harder in SA. I am only a teenager but I love South Africa, it is and will always be my home. And I have moved to Australia yes, due to crime and also a couple of other things. But I know enough about South Africa to know that we have to turn back to God! He is the reason it was going good with the Afrikaners for some time. I have heard countless stories from my dad and grandma who both knew much about this. We used to ask God's help for everything. Now we rely on ourselves, we have to ask God to turn South Africa back into a country living for God. We can't win this war on our own. I will pray that God will help all of to turn back to Him and for Him to heal our broken land. Take care
Anna 1st November 2010	Everyone who is saying that white people should leave South africa are forgetting what happened to this beautiful country during apartheid and segregation the world saw the crime committed by the white people and isolated South Africa until we changed our ways Its not that Crime has risen but has now been exposed. Its simple work harder at ending racism and the ANC will actually come around its called Bitterness guys and there is no space for grudges...this country is too beautiful. I hope we grow with love and not all this hate/animosity I have been affected by crime many times but i realised if i take a second to put myself in their shoes I see differently and am therefore grateful to be who i am and have the priviledge to travel or eat and have clothes
Johan 31st October 2010	I wonder how much is thumb sucked, and how much comes from Govt statistics, which I don't really trust, especially not SA Police stats. For instance, the death penalty was abolished in 1994. Why do we even feature there? Which reflects on the sad state of mind in which the largest part of society finds itself. The culture of civil disobedience which was nurtured in the "struggle", has never stopped, and culture of violence and disrespect for law and fellow human beings, just continues. It can only be stopped by society itself, who should educate their children and not tolerate crime in their communities.
SUZIE KRUGER 29th October 2010	WHAT IS CRIME LIKE IN BONAERO PARK, THINKING OF MOVING THERE ON TO A PLOT
Trudy 23rd October 2010	I know the crime rate in SA is very high, our family has been at the wrong end of that, my mom, relatives. But, when you look at TV in the USA, you will see on 48Hours and most of the programs (I know I'll get heck for this), you can tell in which culture crime is rampant and a human life means nothing. Take care all in SA, God Bless everyone.
proudSA 18th October 2010	If u focus on the negative aspects of any country, no1 wuld b short of complaints. fact is its a beautiful, diverse country with much more 2 offer than ur beloved australia and alot of the other developed countries... our country is cripled by inequality which is a direct cause of a substantial amount of the crime but this is not without remedy, TRUE South Africans know this and are willing to work 2getha and practice patience in order 2 realise this great county's full potential!!!! have fun in australia:-)
english girl 15th October 2010	I have a few south african friends. All of them white, they all had to move due to the crime. I know the blacks were treated about as bad as you could be before 1994. But the crime rate has boomed since arthaped ended. I have to admit South Africa isn't the safest place.
Paddo 11th October 2010	I woke up this morning, went for a walk, came back, cooked breakfast, had a shower, got dressed and caught the bus to work. Nothing happened to me. I wasn't ambushed, with someone shoving a gun in my face, I wasn't raped, or robbed or bludgeoned and the bus wasn't hijacked. SA, it appears has gone to the dogs.
Toni 10th October 2010	I am a South African who settled in this country 40 years ago. In the last 10 years a number of my South African relatives have arrived here to settle. I am shocked at how bigoted some of them are.While they are happy to be in this country they bemoan the fact that "foreigners" - basically anyone from the EU, can get benefits while they can not. They overlook the free schooling and medical care that they received from the moment they set foot in the UK. They are incensed that an Indian doctor thinks he is able to give them decent medical care. On numerous occasions I have had to tell this group to watch what they say in front of their children. They talk of their rights as British subjects. Since they are here on ancestral visas, their rights are really only as a result of the generosity of the British government as their ancestors, mine included, chose to leave the UK for a better life in South Africa. I am sure that there are many South Africans who are grateful for the opportunities this country has given them but I still see too many who have come over here because our system is too soft and they see a way of getting something for nothing. Am I just unlucky in my relatives?
SA Realist 10th October 2010	In SA, you get 2 kinds of people, those who have been affected by crime, and those who will be affected by crime. Interesting to see some of the latter's comments above, their heads stuck deep in the ground, refusing to see what is going around them. Won't be long before they, too, find themselves in the former group. In fact, it won't be long before there are no more who have yet to be affected by crime. To those who have left our bloody shores, I say good luck - even though you will still grieve over the never ending brutal murders, at least your families are now safe. To all those against the Death Penalty, I say you are just as guilty as the murderers themselves: you know what is going on, that people are being murdered, and yet you continued with your course of action to remove our only defence, the death penalty. Shame on you - you will be called to answer for the blood on your hands.
slindo 26th September 2010	im just so gald i was born in South Africa regardless of crime,economy ,health and any other issues im a prouldy South Africa no earthquacks ,volcanos. so so glad at least with crime and health governement can try to work out on that what but natural disaster nah.
duane 25th September 2010	i live in south Africa and I've been affected by crime and have no attention to leave (un less Julius becomes president then I'm on the first plane out of here)the key to improving south africa is education so lets teach the other communities how so read more than just a.n.c and vote for a better government
Tiisetso Mongale 15th September 2010	our counrty is such a respected nation after the world cup that took place, so why give it a bad name by, such crime stats... stop the violence!
Sonia 9th September 2010	I left SA a year ago and it was the best thing I could have done for myself and my family!! The crime far outweighs the natural beauty, and I was no longer prepared to live in fear!! I always thought I would live a long life in Africa and die there however I realised that I would die there, just not at a ripe old age but probably AFTER being raped by someone with AIDS in my 30’s !! I do not regret my decision, and now the UK benefits from having another tax paying citizen with 2 degrees and experience! So sad, but what more can you expect from a country who supports a criminal cabinet and has a president who is a bigamist and lest we not forget all JZ’s other “minor” indiscretions!!
lucky 5th September 2010	honestly the community should be blamed for the high rate of crime in our country. the community should not be silent and if we blame the Government why don't we vote for people we think they can do best.
GTF 1st September 2010	SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT FOR SISSIES!!!!
Pat 1st September 2010	Yup. I've lived here for 43 years but it's time now. The ANC have had their chance and they've blown it. Mark my words. In ten to fifteen years there will be nothing left. It will be worse than Zimbabwe. I love this country but I will not live under the ANC. Second highest murder rate in the world. Top of the rape list. Why? Because instead of investing in our greatest natural resource, our people, the money is spent on cars, houses and personal fortunes for the ruling elite. Very sad. I have no reason to stay anymore. There isn't a single country in Africa that can lay claim to anything even remotely resembling success. South Africa is really the last country in Africa to achieve freedom from white rule, and the people, sadly, know little and have everything to learn. For the past sixteen years I have lived in hope, but that hope is now gone.
Stephen 17th August 2010	I think you should add a stat: Goverment Corruption SA would take top spot
Keagan Roos 13th August 2010	We left southern Africa to live in Australia, We left because we had been car jacked, robbed and shot at a numerous amount of time ... my mother was shot and my best friendssister was raped. Its such a shame . South Africa is such a beautifull country. :(
John R223 9th August 2010	South African living in Australia (currently in Germany) To everyone comparing South Africa to countries such as, USA, Australia, NZ etc.. DONT! These countries don't come close to the crime rate of South Africa.. To honestly believe that Australia is just as bad as SA in terms of crime, well I suggest you travel a bit so you know what SAFE really means. I have travelled a lot and no where have I ever felt as unsafe as in South Africa..
GLEN SYMES 8th August 2010	I THINK AFTER WATCHING CARTE BLANCHE ON SUNDAY, IT HAS BECOME CLEAR TO ALL. THAT CRIME IS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL IN SOUTH AFRICA, ANYONE WISHING TO INVEST HERE WOULD BE NUTS TO, UNLESS HE IS A CRIMINAL ALREADY. A TRULY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS
PROUD2BSA 3rd August 2010	I think, that anyone who left the country- is someone who was too afraid to try and make a difference! South Africa is the best, the film industry is growing, the crime is being controlled and we are continuously showing the world how great we are! BACK OFF! even America has gangs and crimes, australia is now the fattest country and the rest of the world suffers from natural disasters!
Ex SA 1st August 2010	I used to live in a once proud country, must say never quite felt like HOME. I feel more at home in a foreign country where I can walk around at night,let my daughter walk to school, there are parks everywhere and I don't need to worry about being hi-jacked or mugged. "A LIFE LIVED IN FEAR IS A LIFE HALF LIVED". Well I don't think South Africa will EVER be a proud country again!! I still don't understand the concept of, if you have a criminal record you can become the president (No offence to Mandela.. A MAN ALL SHOULD LOOK UP TO)or a minister or anything..
Dion 22nd July 2010	How can Crime ever get sorted out in South Africa if your biggest Criminals is the SAP & Government Officials ? Read the News Paper or Watch the news !!! There is always one of them in default of the so called Law in this Country ! There is not one colour or nationality that are Happy with the way things are going currently ! Its all a big joke and nobody is doing anything about it ????
Hopeful 21st July 2010	I left S.A 18 years ago to live in the U.K because of marriage.Everytime i returned on holiday it broke my heart as its not the same as when i left in 1993.Yet at the same time many positive changes have been made however it will take time for the country to have peace.Its now reverse apartheid where blacks want everything.We never forget where we come from as for stability to rain there must be unity among each race and a positve attidue to pray and help get S.A a better place so that the country can be strong without the fear of living from day to day.
Croba 7th July 2010	You stats are wrong for South Afriva the deasth penalty doesnt even exist. fin someone else to make look bad. shame on you
Henry 6th July 2010	Sadly, South Africans are generally so gullible and naive! Crime in South Africa in the political "Apartheid" era was largely restricted to the informal settlements and designated townships, ie. crimes amongst the black people. Now the barriers containing crime in those traditional areas have been removed and now freely roams the streets anywhere and everywhere. White Caucasian settlements around the world benefit from lower crime rates - FACT! It's a genetic thing, but many would not understand this!
Gideon Burger 28th June 2010	I'm a proud white South African. Please open your eyes and see that there is alot of people trying hard to make this country work. We are hosting a great World Cup and your bitterness is not needed.Yes i have been affected by crime.
john 16th June 2010	are you taking in account all the cheep nucular plants they want to build
MonstersInTheMist 14th June 2010	Crime in SA seems to be well under control. I see no reason not to allow them to solve their own problems. Of course it's probably not wise for caucasion people to remain in SA. Short of radiation contamination, which won't happen. The land will still be there when all of the crime has ceased, ready to be returned to productivity.
BRING BACK HITLR #2, 9th June 2010	LETS SOLVE IT ALL AND STOP POLICALLY CORRECT.
VDMGC 9th June 2010	The ANC is covering up the truth in SA. In the apartheid era some blacks were beaten by a handful of police officials. If apartheid killed 100 blacks I would be surprised. We have public holidays now for 2 of them. Post apartheid SA has introduced inverted apartheid, whites cant find work, corruption and nepotism runs the government. In the apartheid era you heard rumors of murders and violent crime. Now every family (white) have women raped (sometimes children forced to watch), children killed and beaten to death, fathers murdered deliberately in front of their families for as little as one dollar. No guys... post apartheid SA is systematically decimating the white minority, tens of thousands have died since, every family here can name direct friends, wives, children killed by 'africans'. Let us not forget South Africas latest crime: a one year old baby, beaten so badly she (Yes , that's true folks! a year old baby girl) is unlikely to ever recover and is left blind for a mobile phone and a laptop... (http://interceder.net/news/Marzaan-Kruger) Conviction of course has little meaning and criminals will get a 5 year sentence, reduced to one year for 'good behavior'
Ali 8th June 2010	I love south africa, but I hate the level of commitment the government shows to its people. Stats like this are horrifying! Maybe tourists should see this before the world cup. Also, the abuse on children, and amount of rapes!! I miss home but I remember that this was why we left....
Simon 4th June 2010	South Africans are treated fairly throughout the world, yet if the world visits south africa , it will find racism is ripe!
sagreat 4th June 2010	well its true ...we experience crime on a daily bais. Its a way of life... sadly ...
Proud SA 22nd May 2010	Haha, I love all the idiots who now say it is time to leave SA due to the crime. You obviously thought it was all fine during the apartheid era when crime was covered up by white police, the infrastructure only had to support 5% of the population, and black school kids were shot amd murdered by police. In my estimation, I far prefer SA today than what it was.
donald pretoria 19th May 2010	this is not a true reflection, as police is reluctant and ignorant to even receive attacks, they just dont want to help people reporting crime!
Florence 18th May 2010	Having read a lot about South Africa, and what with the up and coming World Cup, I feel that this would be an excellent opportunity, for SA economy and infrastructure. It is such a shame that bad people will view it as the perfect opportunity to exploit the foreigners. Their attitude is no better than the whites were over a hundred years ago, in terms of enslavement. I feel sorry for this beautiful country. The culture/or lack of needs a complete re-shake. I feel sorry for the way in which SA and Africa as a whole is viewed by westerners, but their has to come a time where people stop realising that money and corruption with this money, won't bring anyone happiness.
Glenn 9th May 2010	If our crime was as low as these stats suggest my family & I could cancel our plans for leaving SA. But I think not!
Glenn 9th May 2010	if these were the true stats my family & I would not have to leave SA. But sadly any fool can see that we have way more crime than these suggest.
thabo 6th May 2010	crime is one of the sad things about this beautiful and diverse country.i dont undersand why police are there , they are not fighting crime according to the stats.they just go to the crime scene instead of preventig the crime
bucha 27th April 2010	the way to solve the crime problem in south africa is a very easy one that the goverment has to implement army in full presence on the ground ,road blocks,stop and search
Les 22nd April 2010	A DOCTOR... I sincerely hope that nothing happens to you/your family in your new country..... because where would you run to next.. Our crime levels are unacceptable.... I cant argue with that, but overall our transition out of the evil of Apartheid is as peaceful as anyone could have hoped for. How quickly we seem to forget what this country has come from. Also unless im mistaken... is not a large percentage of our crime domestic? I.E happening mostly in impoverished areas?
Kakabooi 22nd April 2010	Please reconsider your presence at the SWC and tourism in RSA and consider being a victim of ruthless and savage crime. This morning some robber savages beat a one year old girl so badly that she stopped breathing, attacked the babysitter and tied her up. An elderly couple lost their 3rd and last child to crime (shot next to their bed). During the week I read of two farmers which were attacked, one dead and the other wounded badly. a Group of 15 savages beat a 54 man to death while 5 raped his wife repeatedly and beat up their 3 year grand daugter on a small holding close to Polokwane (Pietersburg)... and the list goes on. Confront RSA government officials about their inability to protect the citizens of RSA. Think of your own safety amongst such savagery and rather reconsider if you want to be in RSA at all. Read the local papers on News24 and see 4 yourself. Tell all your loved ones and friends please.
Ryan 15th April 2010	I Love South Africa & will stand by her as she rises to greatness once again!!!!! I've been living here my whole life & neither myself nor any one of my friends have been victim to any serious crime. The odd mugging here & there whilst walking around drunk at night in the Pretoria CBD but that was asking for it & that was all. Im sorry to hear about those who have fallen victim to terrible crimes though, maybe SA isnt the place for you. All I can say is that Im proud to be a citizen of BY FAR!! The most advanced country in Africa!!!!!
Alex 9th April 2010	It is time for all the people of South-Africa to wake up!!! We all love this country but can no longer sit back and wait for someone else to do something about what is happening in this this country. Click on these two links and read the articles and then decide what you think..... http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/4904.html http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/zimbabwe/4955.html
Jay 5th April 2010	@siso N: so so typical of YOU to say something like that, I'm glad that to you, +-80 murders a day is an acceptable loss of life, I suppose as long as you get to go to your favourite shabeen after a long week at work (you're probably middle management in some fancy firm, where you've been working at for all of a year, (with none of the experience or credentials needed to fill the post), and then drive home drunk, taking out a family of four on the road, minding their own business, like has just happened to me this past weekend, and then not have the common HUMAN courtesy of stopping but rather speeding off to avoid all consequences of your actions, then all is good in SA and you're a happy guy. 80 murders a day is in no way shape or form an acceptable loss of life, and something drastic needs to happen to stop this mindless, merciless, cold slaughtering of innocents at the hands of soul-less, conscienceless beasts, who often take a life at the cost of a cell phone. The Brits had it right when they got to SA long ago, when they wrote to the Queen to let her in on their findings, they said that the land was good, but that it was inhabited by savages...nothing’s changed.
Jay 5th April 2010	@siso N: so so typical of YOU to say something like that, I'm glad that you feel +- 80 murders a day is an acceptible loss of life because "Mzanzi rocks!" I bet you frequent the coolest shabeens every weekend after your hard week at work. Whether or not SA is home or not...something needs to be done to stop the merciless, mindless, cold and unnecessary murder of innocents at the hands of a soul-less conscienceless people, who would find it right in themselves to take a life at the cost of a cell phone.
a doctor 5th April 2010	Crime is one of the major reasons is why I emigrated. It is said to see the way the country is going with no light at the end of the tunnel.
Tola 5th April 2010	This looks like one of the externally clean pots with dirts in the interior, I'm afraid...
scrambled 5th April 2010	It doesn't matter how much you love SOuth Africa. If you're white South Africa does not love you
Hi 28th March 2010	oh my god this is good information. it's very sold and concrete information, but that doesn't mean that the information isn't bad and horrifying. but, thank you ever so much....
rakesh barrot 26th March 2010	i want to no about rasik dulab .He has done murder in south africa Because one african is leaving in GUJARAT (INDIA) since 4 years he is not going from gujarat any where so i want to know about him
Meshack 26th March 2010	leaving in another country teaches you values that we have forgoten in SA, it is a human right to live safely and have access to decent education and health care, in SA we pay very high taxes to fill the pockets of the fat cats in government and the real poor of the poor are still in the same position as they were during apartheid times, SA needs a new generation of politicians, younger people that does't have this bagage of corruption and a president that is more thick that a rock.
eyes wide open(realist) 21st March 2010	what a shame!!!!!!!! whether you believe the stats or not you just have to open your eyes driving through which use to be a beautiful country to see the damage, destruction, violence, disrespect and just a non care attitude towards a country that had such potential for everyone. I think the exodus of true south african people leaving south africa for good is a true representation of where the country is at. so sad.........................
Heather 19th March 2010	MY BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY SOUTH AFRICA. MY HEART IS BROKEN BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT YOU ARE FALLING APART. YOUR INFASTRUCTURE IS GOING. SO IT YOUR EDUCATION AND HEALTH SERVICES. JUSTICE IS FADING AWAY, PROTECTION IS GOING TOO. HOW VERY SAD. GOD HELP US ALL.
innocent 17th March 2010	crime is cursed by illegal foreigners in our country
Hard Rain 6th March 2010	You are right not to believe these statistics. The majority of crimes in SA are NEVER reported. Things are WORSE than this page can even say!! SA has gone to the dogs...
lerato 2nd March 2010	i personally think this is reali getting out of hand...if we can be feel free in our neighbourhood where should we go?something needs to be done
Rayes 27th February 2010	well, i'm going there next month but these results seemed scary to me.
siso N 20th February 2010	LOL... these are such lies man. yea the crime at home is bad but cumonnnn now.... 80 murders a day?... and even still, there's no place like home... S.A rocks man!!!!
Maria 4th February 2010	I am so sad to see where South Africa is heading
paul 1st February 2010	That's a lot of murders of any type considering the population. I'm from the U.S. and use to a lot of murders. The city I live in has almost a million people and we had 45 murders in 2009. And to appease the others...that's all that were ruled homicides. I'm curious as to how many were black on black and white on white and so forth..? Obviously, law enforcement expenditures need to be quadrupled..! It's sad to see a country who has went through so much begin to unravel in crime, hate and anarchy.
Sniper 15th December 2009	ja boet, just a matter of time before the kaffers kill someone close to you, 2 choices, fight back or get out.
Proudly SA 10th December 2009	Regardless of the crime her in SA, there is no place like home! I LOVE MY COUNTRY and we should all work together to try and solve this.
saproudly 8th November 2009	Stats are based on incentives of the "expert" providing the stats. We know that between 1990 and 1996 Atlanta (US) under reported all its crimes stats and 22 000 doc on crime went missing. So, it depends how powerful a country you are and which "expert" is brown-nosed by who.
South african 26th October 2009	i am amazed, murders in S.A are high, but the circumstances surrouning each murder is different. we have hosted big concerts and sporting events in south africa, why is it that there is such a huge uproar on crime when the world cup is on the way. i have lived in this country all my life, i have a profession, i feel safe, and i feel free, just a question, if you know a particular place in ur town is a crime hot spot would u still go there? i dont, because i know the difference between being safe, and pushing my luck. some of the places i would suggest u dont visit, that i would never ever set foot in. 1. Hilbrow - Johannesburg 2. Cape flats - Cape town 3. Berea - Johannesburg 4. Esselen Str - Pretoria 5. JOHANESSBURG CENTRAL take precausions: - avoid driving at night - avoid secluded areas - dont walk around with 2 much cash - dont look lost - dont drive alone - and dont resist when being robbed, yeah its crazy, but u never know how agressive they could be, just like any robber anywer in the world. but I would say, rather be careful of south african roads, because they kill more than crime,
Frank 19th October 2009	Im afraid. just this week my company offered me a new job in SA. We are thinking to live in Pretroia. But after reading all this comments I´m not shure if I will take this risk for my family (2 girls´6 and 9)to move to this country. comments pls.
baruni mabel 13th October 2009	i feel that our justice system is failing us, when coming to crime prevention. you look at the number of cases reported especially the criminal activities regarding children. the case will be dragged until the child or gurdian gets tired, and this is a trauma to the child. how do expect children to heal from this ordeal when they have the courts reminding them each time, not even taking note of their studies including exams. ifeel that the justice system instead of protecting the children they traumatise them. thus reccommend that the childrens cases should be attended as soon as possible, so as to allow children to heal.
peter 5th October 2009	I share the question with Stan. Demonstrate the in-accuracy of statistics especialy regarding crime stats from South Africa. Anyway it means between 59 and 87 murders PER DAY !!!
Sam 9th September 2009	This site was really helpful for a modern history presentation I needed to do. The stas where helpful with reliable sources which was good enough to make my teacher happy. My only problem was I did not know if the number represented per year. This site also made my favourits column =D
it does not make sence 7th September 2009	Im am trying to understand the stats with respect to murders for South Africa. Murders 21,553 [1st of 49] Murders with firearms 31,918 [1st of 36] Should not murders with firearms be a sub category of all murders, and therefore should always be less that all murders. or should you split the murder into murder without firearm and murder with firearm. Stan stm@24.com
where+does+the+UN+get+it+statistics? 30th August 2009	Where does the U.N. get it's statistics on rape cases? In the case of South Africa does it include the regions or is it only the major cities??? Why are war torn countries not included? Saudi Arabia a fraction of a percent for rape, does it include the number of women who are accused of adultery if they are raped??? thank you...
where does the UN get it statistics? 30th August 2009	Where does the U.N. get it's statistics on rape cases? In the case of South Africa does it include the regions or is it only the major cities??? Why are war torn countries not included? Saudi Arabia a fraction of a percent for rape, does it include the number of women who are accused of adultery if they are raped??? thank you...
NOMBUSO GAMANYE 28th July 2009	WHY LYF IS SO CRUAL WE SUPPOSE TO LIVE HAPPY IN OUR CONTRY BUT OUR BROTHERS ARE MAKING US CRAYING EVERY DAY WHY WHY
Elysiumboy 2nd May 2009	What an excellent source of information! Found everything I needed with the simplest of ease. You've joined my favourites column immediately.
Hendrik de Jager 25th April 2009	Reading this i just came to one conclusion! How can a country with so much potential and resources, not be in better shape???? Your sitting on a gold mine USE IT!
Angry Black South African (JHB) 2nd April 2009	South Africa has since forgotten that during the apartheid regime foreign counties like Nigeria, Congo, Zimbabwe stood in the line for this country to gain its freedom, but today South Africa doesn't respect the interest of other nations or important people like the Dalai Lama. How would crime reduce when South Africa denied the spiritual leader the right to enter South Africa for a peace conference with the likes of Desmond Tutu and others. Some times I feel so ashamed being an African because as blacks we don't stand up for each other and when you look around the African states all you will see is instrument of cruelty. I think we still need to be govern by the Caucasians for another 100 years because we are not living up to expectation, look at how the black economy empowerment has has destroyed this great nation called South Africa. one very good example is the escom issue and that of the SABC and even SAA and etc. these corporations are all held by blacks since the inception of democracy and there has been no positive turn around. doesn't this indicate that in 15 years time this country will be worst than Zimbabwe? talking about Zimbawe I think that's a topic for another day. Very angry black South African!
thea vosloo (benoni south africa) 2nd April 2009	crime is out of control in our beautiful country since the black government took over. only thing that will stop this is the death penalty. government would however never do that cause thousands of blacks will be put to death every year thus taking votes away from anc. remember this is Africa, don't expect any good coming from it.
Steve Jones (Cape Town, South Africa) 14th March 2009	Most of the sources quoted for the crime stats are well out of date - 2002 is seven years ago. How about more recent stats?
Steve Jones (Cape Town, South Africa) 14th March 2009	South Africa is quoted as having 21553 'murders' in 2002, and 31918 'murders with firearms'. Why then is the 21553 figure used in the international comparison table? Surely the larger figure should be quoted in that table. It is unclear what the total number of murders is. Secondly - dates should not be written as '1,997' (see SA death penalty abolition). Bit shoddy guys.
Alex Dovale (Cape Town) 12th March 2009	This is a beautiful country i have travelled the world and still would rather live no where else then here. Everyone that is sitting here complaining about all the crime and problems either do something about it or keep quite. This is your country too so do something to make it better dont just sit and complain. The world is not perfect not everyone does what they are supposed to do.
bignik (italy) 3rd March 2009	Hi to all ,just a few words , i was born in S.A and lived there un till 1980 , then my parents decided to return back to Italy where they were from , i used to go for a holiday about once a year to Cape town where i used to live , un till 2001 , when i was driving to the bank to change some money , stopped outside the bank and was getting out the car and heard gunshots from inside the bank , the police arrived very quickly because the police station was around the corner, big shoot out , then afterward they told me that it was a normal bank robbery , is a bank robbery normal ? , this was my first day there on the fourth day i was walking down from my house to the local store and there were some vendors selling some cheese salami and other goods , one vendor was shot in cold blood and robbed by three young blacks , i saw this with my own eyes , i was also astounded by the indifference of others , so i went back home and started to ponder on the fact that something very strange is happening in this country, revenge is a very powerful beast and if it grows you will not be able to control anything , i did not ever again return to S.A, which i am sad about , things have gotten worse since then, but what is this new goverment doing , peace and greetings to all bignik
Johannesburg (Jhb, South Africa) 23rd February 2009	Anyone who mentions Zimbabweans in a negative way astound me with both their ignorance and complete lack of ethics. The Zims are the ONLY ones who put work and effort in to their jobs and because of that THEY are the ones getting employed and, of course, upsetting 'previously disadvantaged' because the 'previously disadvantaged' are not being hired. If our population weren't so lazy we'd have built a FANTASTIC and SAFE economy and country by now but because people feel they are owed something they think that they don't need to work and can still earn a salary. WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA!!! If YOU work and work, like the Zimbabweans, then YOU would be hired and THEY would be out of work. How can ANC's Zuma be elected for president if he's under trial for rape, bribery and corruption. It's pretty unbelievable as to the mentality of people we have here that are Zuma supporters and want him to be our role model and leader of our country. People's ignorance and willingness to blindly follow rather than thinking for what's best everyone readily does set my imagination running wild. As Sandra said, it's a VERY, VERY sad situation.. Bring back the death penalty and cut of a hand if someone is caught stealing. After living in the Middle East for a few years I never once locked my car or even heard of any crimes. It works!!
sam kay (SA) 22nd February 2009	Crime is out of control. Leave while you still can, or let your children leave. It is part of the plan to free criminals so that they can succeed in robbing or even killing you. They are given numerous changes till they get it right. SA gone to crap, and who would have thought democracy would be our downfall.
Les (SA) 17th December 2008	Lived here all my life, and will live here the rest of my life. Have a wonderful quality of life and love this country.To those that have left, enjoy your new land and stop commentating on ours. Much of our crime is domestic and most of it occurs in the townships.SA is a safe destination with areas that should be avoided (just like many other countries)
Brandon (Canada) 26th October 2008	For anyone wondering about these stats: Murders: 21,995 Murders (per capita): 0.496008 per 1,000 people Murders with firearms: 31,918 Murders with firearms (per capita): 0.719782 per 1,000 people Murder and Murder by Weapons are actually considered different crimes. Just like assault and assault with a dealdy weapon.
Nick (Port Elizabeth) 8th October 2008	If we payed the cops a decent salary for putting their lives on the line, maybe they wouldn't be in such a hurry to find extra income illegaly. i mean who can support a family on R3000 a month with such crap hours and so much stress?!?!?! im sure it would maybe not solve a lot of problems, but certainly be a step in the right direction. unfortunately though, no one can give a s**t in "guvament", they are too busy lining their own pockets to care about anyone else.
SA REP TILL I DIE!! (Australia) 5th October 2008	Eish!!! its hurts to read all of this!!! It truly does!! South Africa will be my home no matter what! I can't denie the fact that SA has become worse..and it breaks my heart to see it fall apart. I always ask GOD to make SA better place beacuse no matter what im moving back to MZANSI fo sho!!! To all those criminals out there i ask u to please understand what a reputation you are giving our beautiful country! You are taking the lives of innocent people.. All i want to see is South Africa PROGRESS!!!!Because I know WE ARE ALIVE WITH POSIBILITIES!!! love you sa!!!!!!
lwando ruthula (eastern cape province) 2nd September 2008	cant find the aproprite unswers to my questions. can i find the crime graphs presenting the rate of crime in south africa
Wa Benzi (SA) 2nd September 2008	The crime has been reducing at an amazing rate. Of course the new economic depression is likely to make it worse for a while. Just don't let everybody know what a great place it can be to live (not Joburg, though) - otherwise everybody will want to be here. It is instructive to see just how bad these old statistics were - we've come a long way Baby....
maggsshop4 (South Africa) 2nd July 2008	Most crime goes unreported.Most of the time the police dont bother with crimes unless uve been murdered already, and if they do come they dont automatically take a statement...they ask...."would u like us to make a report?" And u know its useless and they make u feel like a nusance as we all know it wont be solved so most people just say no dont bother whats the point...so these statistics are a joke.
boeta (london) 4th June 2008	the stats saying murder with fierearms and murder.add it up and you get 52,000 murders.now that sounds a bit better doesn't it?see people get killed with guns and then with knives axes machettes.easy
Thabang (Pretoria) 2nd June 2008	There aren't many safer countries to live in. Stay here and look ans apply the solutions this country can be great.
Also leaving (Gauteng SA) 5th April 2008	Murder and rape is real in SA. Children and woman can't walk 100m to a shop. I'm leaving !!!! Rather start over or have less but sleep save and enjoy nature. I am a resist because we are raped and killed by blacks. In 5 years time it will be worst here than in Zim.
mongezi (ezibeleni) 24th March 2008	I need the statistics of crime in south africa compared to other neighbour countries
Gary (Grahamstown) 11th March 2008	South Africans' focus on crime needs to be tempered by looking at local news in other countries, whenever they travel - similar sorts of issues, some worse some less worse. As a developing nation we need to compare ourselves with other developing nations - but remember stats can give alsorts of different pictures: look at the total crimes per capita- 77.18 per 1,000 people (South Africa) 85.55 per 1,000 people (United Kingdom)
Busuyi (JHB) 28th December 2007	The senseless nature of the violent crime in SA is inexplicable, this again is confirmed by the gruesome murder of music icon Lucky Dube. Yet we are not hopeless, we can change things by awareness and education. Visit www.dontshootsa.org.za to say your opinion and be a part of this move towards a violent-free South Africa.
fromJoburg (USA) 28th December 2007	Once out never to return. Now Zuma is going to be president oh my gosh lock your doors and buy knop kierries. We have all the McBrides and Yengenis and the non functional scorpions, run away people. You beetr of in Zimbabwe!!!
PDR (Centurion, Gauteng, SA) 28th December 2007	There has been a monotorium on crime statistics for a couple of years now, so nobody really knows how bad crime really is. What I do know, is that I've had three vehicles stolen and my house broken into twice. A friend of mine is currently in hospital because he's been shot in his own home by an intruder. Each of our neighbours have been broken into at least once in the last year. One of our neighbours was highjacked and forced to help the criminals to load his car with his electronic goods. Thankfully they didn't rape his wife. Anybody surprised that I'm leaving SA?
Frank (Johannesburg) 25th December 2007	The SA government has not published any substantial crime figures for years now. That says more about crime in SA than anything else. The only somewhat reliable figure we've seen in recent years is half a million (!) rapes per year. Crime is out of control in SA and the government knows this but doesn't lift a finger. Corruption and crime is rampant, even in the SA police force. The breakdown of society here is progressing rapidly. There was a lot wrong with Apartheid and the system had to go, but under the new government the whole country is turning into a gangster's paradise with the full consent (not to say co-operation) of the ANC gov't.
Migrating (SA) 4th December 2007	The story of one family. I got held hostage and then robbed by two men with knives, a month later I got attacked by six men. Hospitalized...Too say the least. My father got caught in the crossfire between an armored vehicle and robbers. Got shot at with AK47's. No injuries...Luckily. My mother was held at gunpoint by a man demanding cash. He eventually 'escorted' her to an ATM... She was also the victim of various smash and grabs (robberies) and an attempted hijacking. My little sister was threatened with rape (at her high school) if she did not bring a certain amount of cash... About a month ago she was also robbed at the local mall. My older sister was involved in two hijackings and one smash and grab (They break your window, while you are at an intersection, and rob you using any amount of force necessary). Do I need to mention she has two daughters (11 months and 3 years). Imagine this happens to you while driving around with your small children. I am however in the lucky position of emigrating to New Zealand - soon. This is providing I survive for the next 5 months.
JOHN (DURBAN) 14th September 2007	I think we must know that STATE is also involve in crime because they say everybody have rights,what kind of rights criminal have got? We just have to make sure that if he/she is guilt she must stay inside & the Zimbabwe peole some of them they come here and sale drugs if police find them then they pay the police but some of Zimbabwen are good.I think is only one way to stop crime is that police must get good pay so that they don't take money from criminals. thankyou.
Ian (South Africa) 6th September 2007	All the stats published and shown are not painting a true picture of crime. Walk through any street in South Africa, stop every person you meet and ask, has crime affected you, or some close to you? Every single person has been touched by crime or knows some one who was brutally murdered/raped/tortured/hijacked or violently robbed. An the government is only interested in changing street names and ignoring the truth of this situation. Forget the names of the street, protect the citizens and fight crime.
Van (Gauteng - Pretoria - South Africa) 25th July 2007	I agree that personally I do not think your stats are correct as My family and I have been affected by crime many times - and not even bothered to report it - as nothing will get done any. To give you an idea: Brother-in-law - hose broken into more than 15 times (we stopped counting after that) Brother-in-law and father-in-law shot - innocent bystanders (luckily only injured) Son robbed four times Daughter robbed 7 times assualted once - thank God not raped - she was able to get away Sister-in-law - hijacked (car jacking) Brother-in-law vehicle broken into once, vechile stolen Myself - house broken into twice - first time they left a bed's base only - took everything else. Robbed 2 or three times Attempted to jack my car - stole my handbag money, etc And then the "president" of my Country tells me it's all in my imagination? Of course I will leave at the drop of a hat if I could.
What A Joke (Dublin) 15th July 2007	Yes if you get shot dead twice lol, maybe that counts as two murders they kill you revive you and kill you again. But yes if you think these stats are bad enough interpol suggests it should be closer to 52 000 murders per year. The morgues I beleive indicate something similar about these stats being extremely conservatively low. I live in Dublin Ireland and here they consider the small increase in murder rate to be a worry. Ireland has 0.32 murdered per 100 000 (2005). Hence why I moved from SA to Ireland. I'm not the only one. I can walk the worst of the streets here and feel safer than the best streets in SA. My brother moved from Pretoria which we knew well to Cape town and was mugged no fewer than 3 times before he left for USA. For any tourist unless you have a good armed guard and many people traveling with you, you have a false sense of security. I've have even heard from some Irish people that have gone on holiday to SA about their experiences of being robbed. This should in theory have been a highly unlikely statistic to have occured seeing as most of them haven't visted SA and those that have have only spent a short period there!!! Sure vist SA but I think climbing mount Everest is safer. PS If you don't get murdered in SA you might still get raped and get a death sentence called AIDs
Grunter (New Zealand) 29th June 2007	Why does South Africa have more murders with firearms (31,918) than total murders? (21,995)
Tom (Johannesburg) 17th June 2007	10 years in SA (from UK). In the last two years: My wife and I were kidnapped in our car - at gun point, obviously. Locked in boot and driven to remote township - lucky to escape alive. Colleague's wife caught in shoot-out in police station. Colleague's brother-in-law shot in hijacking. One member of staff shot point blank (gun failed to go off) One member of staff's husband in armed robbery at home. No effective police action in any instance. This place is incredibly dangerous - DO NOT FOOL YOURSELF.
Gary (South Africa) 27th May 2007	There is something wrong with the stats, they show that there are more people Murdered with firearms in SA than total people murdered. Murders: 21,995 Murders (per capita): 0.496008 per 1,000 people Murders with firearms: 31,918 Murders with firearms (per capita): 0.719782 per 1,000 people
What a bunch (USA) 19th March 2007	This page must be put up by some ANTI GUN BS person, so the website is bogus, how can that be, you ask?? Above it says that there are 21k murder, and 31k from firearms in other words more people were murder by guns than the total amount for the country all together Murders: 21,995 Murders (per capita): 0.496008 per 1,000 people Murders with firearms: 31,918
amanda (south africa) 9th March 2007	as dangerous as south africa may be it is far better than other countries especially over seas.i personally think that if you have a problem with crime in south africa go live somewhere else, where the crime is twice as bad like in america and then feel happy when you family is killed faster than it would be killed in S.A. Afterwards don't come back to S.A stay there and die
Dan (SA) 5th March 2007	For a country whose government tightly controls the distribution and publication of crime statistics, these figures are as accurate as you'll get; and an indication of the HUGE problem that is faced by the minority that are interested in sustaining the country as a viable society.
Senor Neek (Joburg) 19th February 2007	@ Ben: Whomever told you Joburg was safe as any other city is ill-informed. Joburg represents the epicentre of SA's unparalled crime epidemic. I have lived hear for 7 years and every single person I know has been a victim of crime. People here live in fear, never knowing when it will be their turn. In my personal experience the following has happened: 1. Wife's car stolen in broad daylight 2. House broken into - cleaned out 3. House broken into 2nd time - gate motor stolen 4. Numerous friends hijacked/carjacked, usually assaulted as well (pistol-whipped, kicked, beaten). 5. Armed gunmen stormed my wife's offices and stole all computer equipment. 6. Friend shot and paralysed for life. 7. Female friend kidnapped, tortured, raped repeatedly and murdered. 8. My car broken into. 9. Cash in transit heist (in office hours) in the building where I worked 10. Assassins came into work building to murder someone - luckily could not find him (seriously). 11. Friends held up by 12-18 AK47-wielding gunmen while out for dinner in restaurant. 12. Owner of one of my favourite bar's (Giles) murdered by employee. 14. Man shot dead by robbers at my local grocery store (Melville Woolworths) 15. Manager of local restaurant murdered in cold blood by robbers. 16. Rape epidemic in my neighbourhood (Melville, Jhb) 17. Wife was victin of smash and grab while stopped at traffic light. 18. The list goes on and on and on... In addition to the above, large tracts of the city centre are no-go areas, including Hillbrow, Berea, city centre etc. My house currently has a 2.5 metre (7foot+) wall around it, topped by electric fence. I have beams in my garden that trigger the alarm. I also have an armed response company that arives in 1-2 minutes. My car windows have been coated with anti "smash and grab" coating. And I still feel unsafe...
Boipelo (Kimberley(SA)) 19th February 2007	South Africa is a great country the problem is that people in it are narrow minded. it is easy for someone to stand there and talk about our high crime rate but what is the point when noone is thinking of what is causing it. sa is a developing country and we have a high poverty rate., so yes we have a high crime rate bt that is mainly because majority of the country is hungry and raised in crime ridden townships. as a south african i feel that we should stop blaming the government because i get the idea that the government is only being blamed because the anc is in power. when someone comments on something they should please know what they are talking about, and lets not forget that the majority people that these crimes are violating are the poor people again.the way in which our "wealthier" people think is that the crime rate when something happens to someone they know. catch a wake up and smell the cofee south africans, and shame on those of you who call themselves citizens of sa but degrade the country the way they do! im embarassed that im a 16 year lod and i have more common sense than most of you. here is a idea: IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SA, THEN MOVE TO AUSTRALIA, THE CRIME RATE IS JST AS HIGH!!!!!!!!!
Nathan Gous (Pretoria) 12th February 2007	Crime is big in SA, the powers that be wont admit that there is a problem. Its not to say that SA has the worst crime in world but rather it tends to be more violent here. On the other hand I'm here and I'm not going anywhere and anyone who wants to come here should come. I'm not going to discourage people from witnessing such beauty because I'm angry with the gorvenment.I don't hear Brazilians crying out to the world not to come to their country because they will be mugged. Crime is not new and it certainly didn't start with SA, many countries have had this problem but their citizens(patriotes and just ordinary people) did not migrate to other countries. On the positive side, we have an opportunity to be rid of whingers and true SAfricans(white and black) will remain to fix the problem instead of putting the country down every opportunity they get.
SA Citizen (SA) 11th February 2007	guys crime is bad - we all know that & we take the relevant precaustions. To our Kansas City buddy out there- dont flatter yourself - ours is a self sufficient country - we dont need your corn - we have maize - mielies....thank you very much - and btw - is that what they teach u guys in school about my beautiful country ... gee whizz - heres an idea - step outside of that cocooned world u call the US and go and explore the real world... There's every chance that you will actually learn something instead of just injesting the ridiculous propoganda that the States spout & expects the whole world to beleive - what the dont get is - not every1 is as gullible as Americans... If you have never been to our beautiful albeit flawed country - please dont look at these dumb webites and pass judgement. We have beautiful people, beautiful beaches and a slightly lopsided justice system. We have been a democracy for ONLY 13 years now - only reaching our teens.We do NOT invade other countries and kill everybody in there in the name of peace. We do not plunder - or torture people of different denomination just for fun. We have no Klu Klux Klan and most importantly our president is not George Bush. Everybody outside the country seems to pity us but we are strong and we are building our nation. To those 'ex-pats' - u left - u have no right to call yourself a south African or comment on the country anymore. Our fortitude is our strength... We do not need other countries to come and post troops here to 'fix the problem' - we need education for everyone so that people can earn a decent living. If you dont like the country - leave... Its amazing how many ex-pats come back isnt it....
englebert (usa) 8th February 2007	where are bruce springsteen and little stevie and Bono, now that south africa has the 2nd highest murder rate in the world? They campaigned so hard to get rid of apartheid, now they have the highest crime rate in the world and all of our free south africa folk seem to have disappeared. wonder why.
About to Leave (Cape town) 8th February 2007	In this country the Minister of Safety and Security Charles Nqakula told people to leave the country if they want to complain about crime. I don't know of a single family who has not been involved in serious crime. In todays news a man stabbed a 72 year old lady Eugene Schaefer twice in the neck then another 36 times with a pocket knife and dagger, before raping her as she lay bleeding to death. People get stoned weekly by communities accusing them of being witches. WTF? I have lived here all my life, in a "safe" area, but it is getting worse and worse. The conviction rate is as low as 2.7% in certain crimes. This place is a joke, I am leaving for good as soon as I can.
Joyce Theron (South Africa) 6th February 2007	we live in fear every single day. it feel like its happening to everyone, and my turn is soon to come. i know what it is like to be in a armed robbery. you dont know if they are going to kill you or rape you, luckely they didnt. but i dont know if i will be that lucky again. DEATH PENALTY MUST RETURN TO SOUTH AFRICA!!! it is the only thing that will stop this. we are fedup and our president dont seem to care the least about the people of his country. we want to be heard!!! Please Help us...
Gabriel (London) 6th February 2007	I grew up in SOuth Africa and there is no way for people who havent lived there to understand just how bad it is. Fair enough, you can avoid trouble by avoiding extra dodgy places, but most Murders are caused by Criminals violating other people personal space, going into their homes and killing them. That's the reality of the situation. now please world, WAKE UP. See how bad is it. Don't blame it on Apartheid. DOn't blame it on Racism. Don't blame it on Poverty. Blame it on one thing, above all : A corrupt, horrible, goverment, one that DENIES the crime rate, surpresses it and broke their promises to all their Black citizens and are trying to totally annihilate the White race in South Africa! They are destroying that country piece by piece and they are causing suffering to Millions of people. I am glad Apartheid ended, I do not agree with segregation of any race of people, but these people are making it way worse for the Black people than it EVER was in Apartheid. South Africa needs a new goverment and it needs it FAST before there is nothing left of this once proud Nation. Nelson Mandela is not a hero. He's a criminal
Joe Garzonis (Durban, South Africa) 25th January 2007	I stand in awe with the negativity oozing about SA (my country) with some folk not even staying here. For 29 years I have lived happily in this country effected by a hose pipe being stolen out of my garden twice and fuel been taken out of my fuel tank. Amazingly enough I even work for a manufacturing concern that produces security panels for homes and businesses. Friends out there, crime is inevitable where there is poverty, brutal crime is not an excuse but the reality is it exists. My concern though, is that we will always comment but when there is an incident we say to ourselves: 'that poor sod hope he comes out ok...'in a nutshell it is not as bad as some of you might portray, but it is here and it exists all over the world. I am happy to read and engage on some of you the truth we are starting to export more security devices to Au, NZ and Malaysia then we have in the past 5 years says something about crime globally
Engelie Brand (UK) 6th January 2007	My impression is that things are getting worse. Every year, for the past five years, someone out of my closest 100 relatives and friends were involved in crime that could have costed their lives. (Armed robbery, carjackings, rape). In 2006, however, my cousin was killed, a bystander in an armed robbery. My uncle and aunt were carjacked, pistol against his head, a carjacking occurred at my mom's house's gate and a friend was involved in an armed robbery. So that's 4/100 for 2006... And crime is so commonplace in SA, that I can readliy assume that other criminal incidences occurred in the lives of my 100-closest SAns, that I have not even been told of. Really makes me wonder who will be next! Is it just my near-and-dear's being unfortunate, or what? I dont think so!
peyter will (Cape town) 4th January 2007	South africa is a dangerous country, if you want to have a long life then please dont go there, becuase you will not be having a very long and happy life be safe thank you
Ben (Thailand) 25th December 2006	British subject living in Thailand, I am about to re-locate to SA (Jo'berg)for 3-5 years. I am told it is as safe as any other city. I have no personal experience of the above. Any thoughts from those who have??????????
Luis 8th December 2006	Most of the Crimes that occure in this Countries are because of the Police involved.Most of the Criminals know that if they Pay the Cops they will let them go.
fidelia (nigeria) 28th November 2006	i would honestly want to know if crime rate in S.A is higher than in mexico?
Jake (South Africa & UK) 31st October 2006	This is absolutely ridiculous. This in an injustice to the very being of mankind, to the right to live a safe life. The world needs to wake up, speak up and act. But as this comment is lost on the 2 readers that might read it, so is the outcry from the people who is part of these statistics.
Ben Edsall (Kansas City) 26th May 2006	They took the land from the white farmers that produced food. They gave the land to Black people who did not know how to farm. Now the U.S. gets to feed them! They created a lottery for visas to keep the people who wanted to leave from leaving with their families. They destroyed a vivrant economy and created a welfare state. They took away they right of self defense and the right to keep and bear arms. Now the thugs rule the streets and crime is out of control. The people who want to leave can't because they cannot get their families out. If you drive you will be car-jacked. For this we imposed sanctions and encouraged a criminal to develop a puppet government. The U.S. and the worthless U.N. created this disaster and now they want to do the same in the U.S. From My Cold, Dead Hands! The only thing between US and tyrany is the second ammendment!
hello 14th November 2005	In order to get a more accurate percetion of the current situation in S.A, double these stats. Half of all injustices don't even get reported, and maybe half of half gets filed...catch my drift, it's lots worse that what it appears to be from the figures on your screen..my time spent in S.A - 18 years.
Edd 18th October 2005	I am a employee of the South African Government, and to be honest with you, the only people that counts in this country is the upper class non white people. The lower and middle class people(all races) are there for the criminals to exploit. Next Zimbabwe? Maybe closer than we think
DV 14th October 2005	It sure makes me feel ashamed of my country!!!! Hopefully in ten years time things would look a bit brighter!
K.C.Gwen 2nd September 2005	Why should the government give bails to seriously crime offender instead of putting them behind bars?
Cameron 10th August 2005	South Africa is a great country because: 1. You can eat half dried meat and not be considered disgusting. 2. Nothing is your fault, you can blame it all on apartheid. 3. You get to buy a new car every 3 months and the insurance company even pays for it. 4. You can experience service in eleven official languages. 5. Where else can you get oranges with 45% alcohol content at rugby matches? 6. It's the only country in the world where striking workers show how angry they are by dancing. 7. You're considered clumsy if you cannot: use a cell phone (without car kit), change CDs, drink a beer, put on make-up, read the newspaper and smoke, all at the same time while driving a car at 160 kph in a 60 kph zone. 8. Great accident. (!!!) 9. If you live in Johannesburg, you get to brag about living in the most dangerous city in the world. 10. Burglar bars become a feature, and a great selling point for your house. 11. You can decorate your garden walls with barbed wire. 12. The tow-trucks are the first on the scene for most major crimes, without being called.The police you have to call about three times. 13. Votes have to be recounted until the right party wins. 14. Illegal immigrants leave the country because the crime rate is too high. 15. The police ask you if they must follow up on the burglary you've just reported. 16. A murderer gets a 6 month sentence and a pirate TV viewer 2 years. 17. The prisoners strike and get to vote in elections! 18. The police stations have panic buttons to call armed response when they are burgled 19. Police cars are fitted with immobilisers and gearlocks!
LP 21st July 2005	The crime rate in South Africa has increased drastically over the years. Now in 2005, you get stabbed and robbed of your posessions in your own driveway. If your house door is left open, thieves are not afraid to jump into your yard and enter your house with guns whilst you're having dinner with your family. They stab you over a cellphone or for a few bits of cash while you are waiting for public transport. They smash your car windows while you're in peak traffic and take whats inside. Robbers time you at the ATM and follow you to your home and rob you off your money and very often stabbing you in the process. In South Africa nowdays, they dont just rob you but almost always stab their victims before they flee. You just have to be lucky that they didn't get your vital organs. Women get pulled into cars and raped while innocently walking the streets. 9 month old babies get raped because in rural(uneducated) parts of South Africa, they believe that the younger the baby is, the better the cure for AIDS is (how sick is that). South Africa minus the crime is one of the best countries to live in. It's a very stable country with no natural disasters and has the best climate with sunny winters. If there was little or no crime in this country, I would never move from here but whats the use of working hard and buying a nice car only to have a gun put to your head, assaulted and your car stolen from you in your own driveway - its frightening to know that soon you are going to be the next victim!
Richard Sinclair 16th July 2005	Unfortunately you have to rely upon government statistics from South Africa. This government has orgnaised for itself a propaganda machine which surpasses anything the Nazis ever had. Crime figures are suppressed. Rape, murder and hi-jackings are now routine. The police have a 7% crime solving record. It is in fact dangerous to call out the police to an incident, Those attacked may be charged with assaualting the criminals (mostly poverty and ignorance-driven rural people lured by government into squalor and slums in developed areas. You really need to run a ground-zero check on South Africa. Things are not as they seem....
andy 11th July 2005	Drug Free Marshals are running a Drug Awareness campaign in South Africa to reduce drug use and curb substance abuse. Basically people are being educated on the Truth About Drugs and they then can make their own informed descisions about it. This is very successful. Join the campaign - e-mail me: andy@kooblal.co.za
John 20th June 2005	I just arrived back home, USA, from South Africa. It is the most beautiful place I have ever seen. I am already planning my next excusion. I read this site prior to my trip, I must say, it made me skeptical. Once I arrived in SA, I found that it is really not much different than going to New York, LA or even Chicago. If you are looking for trouble in any of those places, you will find it. The same rule applies to South Africa. Yes, it has problems, but it should not deter anyone from visisting this wonderful place.
Nandipa 7th June 2005	I want to know the real causes of crime
Jurgen Ramdohr 5th April 2005	Good day Just a question: Thassault rate for South Africa for the year 2000 is given on this web site as: 5,354,612,000.00,461 (2000) Surely this should not be 5 billion three hundred and fifty four million assaults for the year?? Regards J Ramdohr

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