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Hans
10th April 2005
Japan is the greatest country in the world and has great statistics...how come they aren't more proud of their country?
Jamie
21st June 2005
They deserve it. They started World War 2
pj
6th July 2005
Maybe they would be more welcoming if you learned to spell Japanese correctly.
Taku
9th July 2005
Alaric: "One told me I'd always be considered a tourist."


well, you would always be a tourist, at least for a very long time. it would take a Westerner decades to learn the subtleties of a Far East culture like Japanese.
Wade
14th August 2005
You must have only talked to the other 64%. Heh.
Nick
15th August 2005
It's hard to believe that the Japanese aren't proud of their country, when you consider that Japan is the second most economically and militaristicly powerful nation on the planet!
Mike
3rd October 2005
Alaric
That's not because they're proud. That's because they're xenophobic.
Jan
5th October 2005
I bet the USA numbers are al LOT higher now (but only temporary) I mean the whole country is divided..
Mitchu
5th October 2005
Thats not a pride thing. There are significant cultural differences and nuances that the japanese people have and that not japanese people can never quite attain. It want a racism thing there'd be not hostility... you'd be more than welcome as a tourist as your friend said but you'd probably never quite fit in.... not say you couldnt get along and make friends etc
Someone
10th October 2005
Anyone who knows Japanese culture would not be shocked that they are insecure. The Japanese are very critical of themselves and value what others think of them much more than other cultures. This can be seen through their tradition of suicide: the japanese have one of the highest suicide rates. Group that with their involvement in World War 2 and you have a prime candidate for a self-loathing nation.
Jay
11th October 2005
I have heard that the Japanese are very exclusionary and do not accept foreigners. They will not allow you to assimilate into their culture.

And I totally disagree that the Germans and Japanese are the best innovators. I think that clearly goes to the Americans. The japanese do a great job of taking american technology and mass producing it but very little that is made there is turly of japanese origin. The most innovative industry in the world is IT and all the best hardware and software companies in that field are american.

American inventions: microprocessor, personal computers, internet, phonograph, light bulb, electron microscope, the VCR.
Japanese inventions: (most of) the DVD, Betamax (and both of those were almost entirely sony)

I don't know where the idea of germans being especially innovative comes from. The automobile was a great idea but that was 110 years ago. In my opinion BMW is the most innovative car company in the world but that's hardly enough to hold up the entire nation. If they were really innovative I think they would find a way to reduce their staggeringly high unemployment rate.
Aonghas Crowe
15th October 2005
I was not surprised at all by Japan and Germany topping the list. Once bitten, twice shy. Both countries experimented with overzealous patriotism only to be humilated in the end, as a result Germans and Japanese today have been born with an original sin of sorts: shame. Any outward expression of love for the fatherland there comes off as smacking of fascism. In Japan, incidentally, "aikokushin", literally, "love of one's country", or patriotism, is associated with the extreme right wing.

Another factor behind the Japanese supposed lack of pride is their tendency towards reserve and humility. It's not polite to boast, so even if they do feel proud, they tend to play it down.
Julie
18th October 2005
WHOA? I think Japan is so awesome how come they aren't proud of their country. How odd.
RC
6th November 2005
Does "not proud" mean specifically ashamed, or merely neutral? I guess we'll never know.
dumbass
6th November 2005
Japan sucks. i`ve lived here for 3 years. They are one of the most conservative, racist societies in Asia. If I were a Japanese youth, and saw the dismal future ahead of me, with and angry China and Korea demanding war reparations that Japan has yet to truly apologize for, I wouldn`t be proud either. Don't believe the hype, Japan sucks, and I can say that cause I know.
uglyamerican
18th November 2005
Hey,
You might have "Lived there for 3 years", but that doesnt mean "you know." Living on a military installation and venturing just outside the gate occasionally DOES NOT meant that "you know.", and DOES NOT mean you know anything about Japan.....not by a long shot. I am living here as well, (5 years) and found the people to be pleasant, the food awesome, and the countryside beautiful.
-Honto ni, baka redneck.
mike knows all
24th November 2005
i go to college in japan. i would just like to say, A.america has the most overzealous patriotism.
B.after the meji restoration, any sort of violence in fiction or nonfictional books WERE and STILL to this day,not allowed until 6th or 7th grade.
C. japanese are not racist. People are nice, but exclude you. your not in america anymore!! A society just for 1 race is fine. A society for all races is fine too. I cant distinguish a problem between having these two kinds of nations in the world.
D.my english has become horrible because of the japanese. t
jackson
25th November 2005
After living in Japan for 7 years and hearing "I wish I weren't Japanese" time and time again, I find this result easy to believe.
useless japan
6th December 2005
Japan svcks shithole.
I have visited Japan last year, and Japan was so horrible and disgusting.
Japan exports uncountable number of whores all over the world and spread diseases all over.
Plus, Japan export dirty comics although nobody like them.
Plus, Japanese business men search for hookers when they travel overseas.
Miller
6th December 2005
I lived in Japan and I never liked Japan.
Japaneses do all kinds of illegal things.
In Tokyo and Yokohama, ppl take urine and excrements in the streets although many ppl watch it.
I was so shocked with such promiscuity
Nick Jackalson
6th January 2006
The Netherlands is 3rd because, as a people, the Dutch lack a sense of national identity and don't have many traditions, from what I've heard. The same would go for Belgium. The fact of Japan and Germany being at the top of the list is almost entirely due to the remaining guilt from the bad reputation earned in the Second World War.
Patio
13th March 2006
I'm just wondering how these questions were asked...what was the sample? How was it obtained? What was the income? How well traveled, well educated, etc. these people were and in what percent. Was the sample random? Where is this evidence? I want to see it damnit...not give me some non-linked source which doesn't even seem to keep this "1990's" data any longer? I won't trust these results further than I can spit until I see some evidence other than correlational numbers and regression numbers...they mean jack when you have a bad sample and bad question format.
Richard (Japan)
25th July 2007
I have lived in Japan for some years now and I can tell you Japanese are very very patriotic and proud of their nationality. Far more so than other nationalities, including my own (British). I expected to find them at the bottom of the chart. I wonder if the question was posed in the right way or perhaps it lead the Japanese and Germans to still feel guilty about WWII.
Alexander (Sweden)
7th November 2007
@Zeller from Montana, USA:
Ever been to Poland?
No? Figured as much.

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