The Charmides is a The term dialogue (or dialog) expresses basically reciprocal conversation between two or more persons. ...dialogue of For the computing technology, see PLATO System. ...Plato, discussing the nature and utility of temperance.
Synopsis
Charmides, the young and beautiful Athenian who is the namesake of the dialogue, talking to Socrates Scholasticus; for the Brazilian football player, see Sócrates (football player) Socrates Socrates (June 4, 470 – 399 BC) (Greek Σωκράτης Sōkrátēs) was a Greek (Athenian) philosopher and one of the most important icons of the Western philosophical tradition. ...Socrates, initially suggests that temperance is doing everything quietly. This is refuted, for it is admitted by Charmides that temperance is all good, and in no way bad, and since quickness in some actions is better than quietness and slowness in the same actions, temperance cannot be quietness.
Charmides then puts forward the definition of temperance as modesty. Socrates refutes this as well, citing For other uses, see Homer (disambiguation). ...Homer's statement in The Odyssey is the second of the two great Greek epic poems ascribed to Homer, the first being the Iliad. ...The Odyssey that "modesty is not good for a needy man," and since temperance is an ultimate good, it cannot be modesty.
At this point Charmides tells Socrates of a definition of temperance he had heard from another: Doing one's own business. (needs to be continued)
Charmides, he replied, is his name; he is my cousin, and the son of my uncle Glaucon: I rather think that you know him too, although he was not grown up at the time of your departure.
Such, Charmides, I said, is the nature of the charm, which I learned when serving with the army from one of the physicians of the Thracian king Zamolxis, who are to be so skilful that they can even give immortality.
Very good, Charmides, said Critias; if you do this I shall have a proof of your temperance, that is, if you allow yourself to be charmed by Socrates, and never desert him at all.