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Negativland

Background information
Origin Contra Costa County, CA, USA
Genre(s) Experimental
Sound collage
Alternative music
Instrument(s) vocals, samples, drum machine, keyboards, kazoo, guitar, Booper
Years active 1979 to present
Label(s) Seeland
SST
Lumberjack Mordam Distribution
Website http://www.negativland.com/
Members
Mark Hosler(1979-present)
Don Joyce(1983-present)
Richard Lyons(1979-present)
David Wills(1979-present)
Peter Conheim(1996-present)
Tim Maloney(2005-present)
Tom Koch
Stukke and Stakke
Jonathan Land (1996-present)
Former members
Ian Allen (1981-1987)
Chris Grigg(1983-1996)
Joan(1979-1980)
Peter Dayton(1979-1980)

Negativland is an experimental music and sound collage band which originated in the San Francisco Bay Area in the late 1970s. They took their name from a Neu! song [1], while their record label is named after another Neu! song. The current core of the band consists of Mark Hosler, Richard Lyons, Don Joyce, David Wills and Peter Conheim but membership is considered rather irrelevant and this personnel list may be wildly inaccurate or false. Back cover Negativland is Negativlands first album, released by Seeland Records in June of 1980. ... Image File history File links Negativland1. ... Contra Costa County is a suburban county in Californias San Francisco Bay Area. ... This article does not cite any references or sources. ... For experimental rock music, see experimental rock. ... Sound collage is the production of songs, musical compositions, or recordings using portions, or samples, of previously made recordings. ... The term alternative rock or alternative music1 was coined in the early 1980s to describe bands which didnt fit into the mainstream genres of the time. ... A musical instrument is a device constructed or modified with the purpose of making music. ... This does not adequately cite its references or sources. ... Seeland Records is an independent record label created by Negativland in the 1980s to release their own recordings. ... SST Records is a Lawndale, California based independent record label formed in 1978 in Long Beach, California by Black Flag founder/guitarist Greg Ginn. ... Mordam Records was an independent punk record label founded in 1983 by Ruth Schwartz (co-founder of Maximum RocknRoll). ... Mark Hosler (born 1963) is one of the founding members of Negativland. ... Don Joyce is a member of the experimental music group Negativland. ... Richard Pastor Dick Vaughn Lyons (born 1963) is one of the members in Negativland. ... David Wills was born on the 4th November 1985. ... This article does not cite any references or sources. ... Tom Koch was one of MAD Magazines mainstay writers from the 1950s through the 1980s. ... Ian Basil Alston Allen (born October 6, 1965, Coulls Hill, St Vincent) is a former West Indian cricketer who played in two Tests in 1991. ... Look up Joan in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. ... For experimental rock music, see experimental rock. ... Sound collage is the production of songs, musical compositions, or recordings using portions, or samples, of previously made recordings. ... USGS satellite photo of the San Francisco Bay Area. ... The 1970s decade refers to the years from 1970 to 1979, also called The Seventies. ... Neu! (the German word for new, pronounced noy) were a German band, probably the archetypal example of what the UK music press at the time dubbed Krautrock. ... Mark Hosler (born 1963) is one of the founding members of Negativland. ... Richard Lyons is the name of more than one person. ... Don Joyce is a member of the experimental music group Negativland. ... David Wills was born on the 4th November 1985. ...


Negativland has released a number of albums ranging from pure collage to more musical affairs. These have mostly been released on their own label, Seeland Records. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, they produced several recordings for SST Records, most notably Escape From Noise, Helter Stupid, and U2. Negativland became involved in a lawsuit with U2's lawyers, which brought them widespread publicity and notoriety, but nearly destroyed them as a band. Seeland Records is an independent record label created by Negativland in the 1980s to release their own recordings. ... The 1980s refers to the years from 1980 to 1989. ... For the band, see 1990s (band). ... SST Records is a Lawndale, California based independent record label formed in 1978 in Long Beach, California by Black Flag founder/guitarist Greg Ginn. ... Escape From Noise (1987) marked Negativlands first break on a name-brand independent record label, SST Records. ... Helter Stupid, Negativlands second album on SST Records, was released in 1989 (see 1989 in music). ... U2 is the name of the infamous 1991 E.P. by the experimental music and sound collage band Negativland. ... This article is about the Irish rock band. ...

Contents

History

1980s

Negativland started in Concord, California in 1979 around the core founding members of Lyons and Hosler (who were in high school at the time), and released an eponymous debut in 1980. Location of Concord in California. ... Official language(s) English Capital Sacramento Largest city Los Angeles Largest metro area Greater Los Angeles Area  Ranked 3rd  - Total 158,302 sq mi (410,000 km²)  - Width 250 miles (400 km)  - Length 770 miles (1,240 km)  - % water 4. ... Also: 1979 by Smashing Pumpkins. ...


A number of releases followed in the early 1980s, but it wasn't until after the release of their breakthrough sample and cut-up sonic barrage Escape From Noise in 1987 that Negativland gained wider attention. Vinyl copies of the album came with "CAR BOMB" bumper stickers, in relation to the album's song "Car Bomb." Escape From Noise (1987) marked Negativlands first break on a name-brand independent record label, SST Records. ...


Following the somewhat unexpected success of this album, Negativland faced the prospect of going on a money-losing tour. To prevent this, they put together a phony press release. It claimed that the acts of a mass-murderer named David Brom had actually been incited by their song "Christianity is Stupid." The song contained samples deriding Christianity taken from the pro-Christianity film, If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?. A news release or press release is a written or recorded communication directed at members of the news media for the purpose of announcing something claimed as having news value. ... David Brom (born October 3, 1971) killed his parents, brother and sister with an axe when he was sixteen in February 1988 in Rochester, Minnesota. ... If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do? is a 1971 Christian film directed by Ron Ormond. ...


The resulting fallout and media frenzy, based on the hoax by Negativland, had the effect of pointing out the herd mentality of the mass media. Though the press release was completely unsubstantiated by any facts, the lurid combination of murder, religion, and "rock" music proved too tempting for the media to ignore. The story ran on TV news shows, newspapers, and magazines, with little to no fact-checking. Soon the world was informed of the "Killer Song" that caused a kid to murder his parents with an ax.


The scandal became the foundation for their next release, Helter Stupid, which featured a cover photo of a TV news "journalist" intoning the ax murder story, with the news station's caption "Killer Song" above his head, and a photo of the ax-murderer. Helter Stupid, Negativlands second album on SST Records, was released in 1989 (see 1989 in music). ...


The U2 record incident

Negativland's next project was the infamous U2 EP, with samples from "America's Top 40" host Casey Kasem. In 1991, Negativland released a single with the title "U2" displayed in very large type on the front of the packaging, and "Negativland" in a smaller typeface. An image of the Lockheed U-2 spy plane was also on the single cover. Image File history File links No higher resolution available. ... Casey Kasem in 1989 Casey Kasem (born Kemal Amin Kasem on April 27, 1932, in Detroit, Michigan, USA, of Palestinian and Lebanese heritage) is an American radio personality and voice actor. ... The Lockheed U-2, nicknamed Dragon Lady, is a single-seat, single-engine, high-altitude aircraft flown by the United States Air Force. ...


The songs within were parodies of the group U2's well-known 1987 song, "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", including kazoos and extensive sampling of the original song. The song "The Letter U And The Numeral 2" features a musical backing to an extended profane rant from well-known disc jockey Casey Kasem, lapsing out of his more polished and professional tone during a frustrating rehearsal which had gone out to many stations as raw feed and was taped by several engineers, who had been passing it around for a number of years. One of Kasem's milder comments was "These guys are from England and who gives a shit?" (U2's members are in fact from the Republic of Ireland.) I Still Havent Found What Im Looking For is the second track U2s 1987 album, The Joshua Tree and was released as the albums second single. ... This article does not cite any references or sources. ... For other meanings of DJ, see DJ (disambiguation). ... Casey Kasem in 1989 Casey Kasem (born Kemal Amin Kasem on April 27, 1932, in Detroit, Michigan, USA, of Palestinian and Lebanese heritage) is an American radio personality and voice actor. ... For other uses, see England (disambiguation). ...


U2's label Island Records quickly sued Negativland, claiming that placing the word "U2" on the cover violated trademark law, as did the song itself. Island Records also contended that the single was an attempt to deliberately confuse U2 fans, then awaiting the impending release of Achtung Baby. Island Records is a record label that was founded by British record producers in Jamaica. ... This article includes a list of works cited but its sources remain unclear because it lacks in-text citations. ...


In June, 1992, R. U. Sirius, publisher of the magazine Mondo 2000 came up with an interesting idea. Publicists from U2 had contacted him regarding the possibility of interviewing Dave Evans (aka "The Edge") hoping to promote U2's impending multi-million dollar Zoo TV Tour, which featured found sounds and live sampling from mass media outlets (things for which Negativland had been known for some time). Sirius, unbeknownst to Edge, decided to have his friends Joyce and Hosler of Negativland conduct the interview. Joyce and Hosler, fresh from Island's lawsuit, peppered the Edge with questions regarding his ideas about the use of sampling in their new tour, and the legality of using copyrighted material without permission. Midway through the interview, Joyce and Hosler revealed their identities as members of Negativland. An embarrassed Edge reported that U2 were bothered by the sledgehammer legal approach Island Records took in their lawsuit, and furthermore that much of the legal wrangling took place without U2's knowledge: "by the time we (U2) realized what was going on it was kinda too late, and we actually did approach the record company on your (Negativland's) behalf and said, 'Look, c'mon, this is just, this is very heavy...'" Island Records reported to Negativland that U2 never authorised samples of their material; Evans response was, "that's complete bollocks, there's like, there's at least six records out there that are direct samples from our stuff."[2] R. U. Sirius R. U. Sirius (born Ken Goffman) is an American writer, musician, and cyberculture icon best known as co-founder and original Editor-In-Chief of Mondo 2000. ... Mondo 2000 #13 Mondo 2000 was a glossy cyberculture magazine published in California during the 1980s and 1990s. ... For other subjects called The Edge, see The Edge (disambiguation). ... For the fan club-exclusive album released from this tour, see Zoo TV Live. ...


The "U2" single (along with other related material) was re-released in 2001 on a "bootleg" album entitled These Guys Are From England And Who Gives A Shit, released on "Seelard Records" (a parody of Negativland's record label Seeland Records). It is thought likely that Negativland themselves were responsible for the re-release, and that U2 gave their blessing; although the Negativland website refers to this release as a bootleg, it is available from major retailers like Best Buy, Amazon, and Tower Records, as well as Negativland's own mail-order business.


Negativland are interested in intellectual property rights, and argue that their use of U2's and others' material falls under the fair use clause. In 1995, they released a book, with accompanying CD, called Fair Use: The Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2, about the whole U2 incident (from Island Records first suing Negativland for the release to Negativland gaining back control of their work four years later). The book ends with a large appendix of essays about fair use and copyright by Negativland and others, telling the story with newspaper clippings, court papers, faxes, press releases and other documents arranged in chronological order. An unfortunate side effect of the Negativland-Island lawsuit was another one brought on between Negativland and SST, which served to sever all remaining ties the two had. To get back at Negativland (while wryly circumventing their name), Ginn later released the Negativ(e)land: Live On Tour album on SST. For the 2006 film, see Intellectual Property (film). ... For fair use in trademark law, see Fair use (US trademark law). ...


Negativland were the main subjects of Craig Baldwin's documentary Sonic Outlaws, detailing the use of culture jamming to subvert the messages of more traditional media outlets. There are many other artists who push the boundaries of copyright law in a similar way to Negativland, including John Oswald, the Evolution Control Committee, The Bran Flakes, Countymojo, The Tape-Beatles, Sir Mildred Pierce, and People Like Us. Culture jamming is the act of transforming existing mass media to produce commentary about itself, using the original mediums communication method. ... John Oswald (born May 30, 1953 in Kitchener, Ontario) is a Canadian composer, saxophonist, photographer, and dancer. ... An experimental music band from Columbus, Ohio founded by Mark Gunderson in the 1980s, the Evolution Control Committee (ECC) typically uses uncleared and illegal samples from various sources as a form of protest against copyright law. ... The Bran Flakes are a band from Seattle, Washington who specialise in creating music from pre-existing sources. ... People Like Us (Vicki Bennett) creates audio-visual collage using sampling and found footage. ...


ABCs and Teletubbies

In 1999 Negativland collaborated with UK anarchist band Chumbawamba to produce the album The ABCs of Anarchism, which is largely based around the writings of Alexander Berkman and cut-up versions of Chumbawamba's hit song "Tubthumping", the theme tune to the children's program Teletubbies and the Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the UK". Image File history File links Neg02a. ... Image File history File links Neg02a. ... This article is about the year. ... Anarchism is a generic term describing various political philosophies and social movements that advocate the elimination of hierarchy and imposed authority. ... Chumbawamba are an English band who started out playing punk rock but over a 25-year career have gone on to play music in a wide range of styles, including pop influenced by dance music and world music, and now play acoustic folk music. ... Chumbawamba & Negativland The ABCs of Anarchism By Chumbawamba & Negativland Track Listing:- 01 - The ABCs Of Anarchism 02 - Bradford Bad Lad 03 - Housewarming (Ugly/Beautiful) 04 - Look Ma Top Of The World See also Wikiquote has a collection of quotations by or about: The ABCs of Anarchism Anarchism in the arts... Alexander Berkman together with Emma Goldman in 1917 Alexander Berkman (November 21, 1870 - June 28, 1936) was a Russian immigrant who became an American writer, radical anarchist, and would-be assassin. ... The cut-up technique is an aleatory literary technique or genre in which a text is cut up at random and rearranged to create a new text. ... Teletubbies is a BBC childrens television series, particularly aimed at young children, produced from 1997 to 2001 by Ragdoll Productions. ... The Sex Pistols were an iconic and highly influential English punk rock band, formed in London in 1975. ... Anarchy in the U.K. (B-side I Wanna Be Me) was the first single by the punk band the Sex Pistols released on November 26, 1976, and is thus frequently considered to be the first punk single (although The Ramones released Blitzkrieg Bop a year earlier). ...


Recent developments

In 2003, members of Negativland contributed their efforts to Creative Commons, an organization devoted to providing artists with a broader range of copyright options. In August of that year, Negativland spoofed Clear Channel radio stations in an audio track broadcast by pirate radio broadcasters jamming a Seattle Clear Channel station while the National Association of Broadcasters met in the city[3]. The Creative Commons (CC) is a non-profit organization devoted to expanding the range of creative work available for others legally to build upon and share. ... A clear channel, in the general sense, is a communications channel (such as a radio frequency) on which only one transmitter operates at a time. ...


Member Don Joyce has long hosted a weekly radio show called Over The Edge most Thursdays at midnight on KPFA. Recordings of some noteworthy episodes of the show have been released by Seeland in its Over The Edge series. Over The Edge (or, OTE) is a radio program hosted and produced in the United States by Negativland member Don Joyce. ... KPFA KPFA (94. ...


In September 2005, to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the band, Negativland curated an art exhibit in Manhattan's Gigantic Artspace gallery. The exhibit, Negativlandland, included a number of pieces of artwork from and inspired by Negativland recordings, video projection of music videos created by the band and others, and some artwork created specifically for the show, such as an animatronic Abraham Lincoln figure (inspired by the band's Lincoln cut-up piece God Bull) and a hands-on exhibit featuring the Booper, the audio-processing unit that band member David Wills (a.k.a. The Weatherman) assembled out of old radio parts. The show appeared in Minneapolis on May 12, 2006, at Creative Electric Studios. This article is about the city in Minnesota. ...


Members

Mark Hosler

Mark Hosler (born 1963) is one of the founding members of Negativland. He is into Polish music and loves to experiment with different sounds. He currently runs Negativlandland at Creative Electric Studios in Minnesota. Year 1963 (MCMLXIII) was a common year starting on Tuesday (link will display full calendar) of the Gregorian calendar. ... Capital Saint Paul Largest city Minneapolis Area  Ranked 12th  - Total 87,014 sq mi (225,365 km²)  - Width 250 miles (400 km)  - Length 400 miles (645 km)  - % water 8. ...


Snuggles

"Snuggles" is an e-mail discussion list originally intended to cover topics related to the band Negativland. Its purpose was diverted to being a forum for a loose collective of collage artists. It is the birthplace of a series of culture jamming projects including the Droplift Project, Free Speech For Sale, and Dictionaraoke. Culture jamming is the act of transforming existing mass media to produce commentary about itself, using the original mediums communication method. ... The Dictionaraoke Project was conceived of by a diverse group of experimental musicians communicating through the Internet. ...


The name is derived from the famous Casey Kasem expletive-ridden off-air rant that was used as the basis for the banned Negativland U2 single. The portion related to the name Snuggles is as follows:

Now, we're up to our long-distance dedication. And this one is about kids, and pets, and a situation that we can all understand, whether we have kids or pets or neither. It's from a man in Cincinnati, Ohio. And here's what he writes: "Dear Casey, This may seem to be a strange dedication request, but I'm quite sincere, and it'll mean a lot if you play it. Recently, there was a death in our family. He was a little dog named Snuggles, but he was most certainly a part of..." — let's come — start again. Coming out of the record. Play the record, OK? Please.

Discography

Albums

  • Negativland (1980)
  • Points (1981)
  • A Big 10-8 Place (1983)
  • Escape From Noise (1987)
  • Helter Stupid (1989)
  • Free (1993)
  • Fair Use: The Story of the Letter U and the Numeral 2 (1995)
  • Dispepsi (1997)
  • Negativ(e)land: Live On Tour (1997)
  • These Guys Are From England and Who Gives a Shit (2001)
  • Deathsentences of the Polished and Structurally Weak (2002)
  • No Business (2005)
  • Our Favorite Things (2007)

Back cover Negativland is Negativlands first album, released by Seeland Records in June of 1980. ... A Big 10-8 Place is Negativlands 3rd album and most arguably, their most coveted, excluding their limited run Negativland LP in 1980. ... Escape From Noise (1987) marked Negativlands first break on a name-brand independent record label, SST Records. ... Helter Stupid, Negativlands second album on SST Records, was released in 1989 (see 1989 in music). ... Back cover Free is a 1993 Negativland album. ... Dispepsi is an album by the band Negativland. ... These Guys Are From England And Who Gives A Shit is the re-release of the U2 by Negativland, released in 2001. ... No Business is a 2005 album by the sound collage band Negativland. ... Our Favorite Things is the new DVD from Negativland coming out in October 2007. ...

Over The Edge Radio Series

(CD's edited from Negativland's weekly live radio show)

  • Over the Edge Vol. 1: JAMCON'84 (1985)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 1½: The Starting Line with Dick Goodbody (1995, partial reissue)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 2: Pastor Dick: Muriel's Purse Fund (1990)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 3: The Weatherman's Dumb Stupid Come-Out Line (1990)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 4: Dick Vaughn (1990)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 4: Dick Vaughn's Moribund Music of the '70s (2001, expanded reissue)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 5: Crosley Bendix: The Radio Reviews (1993)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 6: The Willsaphone Stupid Show (1994)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 7: Time Zones Exchange Project (1994)
  • Over the Edge Vol. 8: Sex Dirt (1995)
  • It's All in Your Head FM: Over the Edge Live on Stage (2006)

EPs

U2 is the name of the infamous 1991 E.P. by the experimental music and sound collage band Negativland. ... Guns is the name of the 1992 EP by the experimental music and sound collage band Negativland. ... The Letter U and the Numeral 2 was 96-page magazine and 25- minute CD detailing U2 legal fracas. ... Truth in Advertising is a 1997 EP by Negativland. ... Dispepsi is an album by the band Negativland. ... Happy Heroes is a E.P. by sound collage and experimental musical group Negativland. ... Chumbawamba & Negativland The ABCs of Anarchism By Chumbawamba & Negativland Track Listing:- 01 - The ABCs Of Anarchism 02 - Bradford Bad Lad 03 - Housewarming (Ugly/Beautiful) 04 - Look Ma Top Of The World See also Wikiquote has a collection of quotations by or about: The ABCs of Anarchism Anarchism in the arts... Chumbawamba are an English band who started out playing punk rock but over a 25-year career have gone on to play music in a wide range of styles, including pop influenced by dance music and world music, and now play acoustic folk music. ...

Bootlegs

  • Negativconcertland (1993)
  • Negativ(e)land: Live On Tour (1997)
  • These Guys Are From England And Who Gives A Shit (2001)

External links and references

is the 295th day of the year (296th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... Year 2001 (MMI) was a common year starting on Monday (link displays the 2001 Gregorian calendar). ... is the 62nd day of the year (63rd in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. ... Year 2004 (MMIV) was a leap year starting on Thursday of the Gregorian calendar. ...

Interviews

  • Art and Commodity Capitalism Interview with Mark Hosler, Plazm magazine 1996.
  • Radio Feature, The Some Assembly Required Interview with Negativland's Mark Hosler.
  • Interview with Don Joyce at Kurt Weller's Plaza of the Mind.

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Negativland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (1210 words)
Negativland started in Concord, California in 1979 around the core founding members of Lyons and Hosler (who were in high school at the time) and released an eponymous debut in 1980.
Negativland's Mark Hosler pointed at the irony of U2 infringing copyrights on a massive scale during their Zoo TV tour by broadcasting live satellite images on stage, and getting away with it, while almost simultaneously suing Negativland, who had been doing it for a long time before it ever dawned on U2.
In 1999 Negativland collaborated with UK anarchist band Chumbawamba to produce the album the ABCs of Anarchism, which is largely based around the writings of Alexander Berkman and cut-up versions of Chumbawamba's hit song "Tubthumping", the theme tune to the children's program Teletubbies and the Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the UK".
Negativland - definition of Negativland in Encyclopedia (886 words)
Negativland's main claim to fame is the U2 lawsuit which nearly destroyed them as a band.
For its part, Negativland claimed that it spoke more about the state of the media than a desire on their part to exploit a tragic situation.
Negativland's Mark Hosler pointed at the irony of U2 infringing copyrights on a massive scale during their Zoo TV tour by broadcasting live satellite images on stage, and getting away with it.
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