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Encyclopedia > Owain Ddantgwyn

Owain Ddantgwyn is the popularly recognised form of the name of a prince of North Wales, probably a King of Rhos in the late 5th century. Next to nothing is known of him, yet in recent years he has become widely accepted in some quarters as a possible candidate for a so-called 'real' King Arthur. Rhos means moor or moorland in Welsh. ... Europe in 450 The 5th century is the period from 401 to 500 in accordance with the Julian calendar in the Christian Era. ... A bronze Arthur in plate armour with visor raised and with jousting shield wearing Kastenbrust armour (early 15th century) by Peter Vischer, typical of later anachronistic depictions of Arthur. ...


Extant Records

The correct modern spelling of Owain's name is Owain Danwyn (Owen White-Teeth). He appears in various ancient Welsh genealogies as the son of Einion Yrth and the father of Cynlas Goch. One of these is given the title, 'Pedigree of (the Kings of) Rhos. According to the Bonedd y Saint, he was also the father of SS. Einion Frenin (the King), Seiriol, Meirion and possibly others. Other than these genealogies, no documentary evidence exists concerning his life. Old Welsh (Hen Gymraeg) is the label attached to the Welsh language from the time it developed from the Brythonic language, generally thought to be in the period between the middle of the 6th century and the middle of the 7th century, until the early 12th century when it developed... Einion ap Cunedda (born 420; reigned from the 470s) (Latin: Engenius; English: Enoch), also known as Einion Yrth (the Impetuous) was a king of Gwynedd. ... Cuneglas (also known in Latin as Cuneglasus and in modern Welsh as Cynlas. ... Saint Seiriol was an early 6th century saint, who created a cell at Penmon on Anglesey, off Wales. ...


Arthurian identification

A small number of investigative historians have conjectured that Owain could be the original of a ‘real’ King Arthur: A bronze Arthur in plate armour with visor raised and with jousting shield wearing Kastenbrust armour (early 15th century) by Peter Vischer, typical of later anachronistic depictions of Arthur. ...


This theory has been chiefly proposed by Graham Phillips and Martin Keatman in their book, King Arthur: The True Story (1992). They suggest that 'Arthur' was a title and identify its recipient as Owain from a passage in De Excidio Britanniae. Its contemporary author, Gildas, refers (in Latin) to Owain’s son, Cynlas, literally as "guider of the chariot which is the receptacle of the bear". 'Bear' in Brythonic is 'Arth', so Phillips and Keatman take this to infer that 'the Arthur' was Cynlas’ predecessor, known from the genealogies to be Owain. They go on to claim that Owain ruled in Powys. Year 1992 (MCMXCII) was a leap year starting on Wednesday (link will display full 1992 Gregorian calendar). ... Saint Gildas (c. ... Gildas (c. ... Brythonic is one of two major divisions of Insular Celtic languages (the other being Goidelic). ... Medieval kingdoms of Wales. ...


The idea is expanded by Mick Baker on The History Files. He adds that Owain was probably the uncle who was, according to Gildas, murdered by Maelgwn Gwynedd (whom he compares to Mordred); he lived in North Wales where there are three sites called 'Camlan' (being the site of Arthur's terminal battle with Mordred); and his father was called Yrth (compare Uther). Gildas (c. ... Maelgwn ap Cadwallon (480-547, reigned from 520s?) (Latin: Maglocunus; English: Malcolm), also known as Maelgwn Gwynedd, Maelgwn Hir (the Tall) and Maelgwn I, was king of Gwynedd, and a character from Celtic mythology. ... Mordred or Modred (Welsh: Medrawd, Latin: Medraut) is a character in the Arthurian legend, known as a notorious traitor who fought King Arthur at the Battle of Camlann, where he was killed and Arthur fatally wounded. ... Uther Pendragon (pen-dragon = head of the dragons) is the legendary father of King Arthur in Arthurian legend. ...


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Owain Ddantgwynn & the Identity of Arthur (1068 words)
2 Owain Ddantgwyn was the youngest son of one of the kings of Gwynedd, Enniaun Yrth, who line were known as the head dragons.
Perhaps the cousins planned that Owain should die and that the kingdom would be split between them (after all, if Owain was Arthur, High King of Britain, there would have been much jealousy and a prize worth killing for).
Bearing in mind the importance of Owain Ddantgwyn, and the fact that many of the borders of Dark Age kingdoms were often in a fairly fluid state, it does not require too great a leap of faith to propose that Viroconium may have been his power base also.
SCC Forums > Did King Arthur really exist? (1146 words)
I recentley read that Arthur was positively identified as a sixth century Welsh ruler called Owain Ddantgwyn but nothing is recorded of him.
Mar 25 2005, 06:17 AM I went and looked up Owain Ddantgwyn because I had never heard of him and there is certainly some compelling evidence there.
Owain Ddantgwyn had a robust kingdom of Gwynedd/Powys combined which was centred on Wroxeter (Viroconium) which is now well within England.
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