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Encyclopedia > White van speakers

White van speakers is a scam sales technique in which a salesman makes a buyer believe he is getting a good price on audio merchandise. Con artists in this type of scam call themselves "speakerguys". A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short, (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain. ... A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short, (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain. ...

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Process

The typical speakermen scam involves one or two people, who are usually dressed in t-shirts and jeans or business uniforms. They drive around in a brand new suv or a commercial vehicle (usually a white commercial van, which is the cheapest to rent) that often displays a company logo. To find suitable targets, the van operators set up their con in moderately trafficked areas—parking lots, gas stations, colleges, large apartment complexes—or even watch heavy traffic for people driving expensive cars and wave them down. The marks are usually affluent young men, college students, or others thought to have large amounts of disposable income. A uniform is a set of standard clothing worn by members of an organisation whilst participating in that organisations activity. ... A commercial vehicle is a type of vehicle used for carrying goods or passengers. ... A white van; man not pictured White van man is a stereotype, a usually pejorative term used in the United Kingdom to describe aggressive, thoughtless drivers of light commercial vehicles. ... This article does not cite any references or sources. ... Parking lot showing diagonal parking pattern designed for one-way traffic. ... Modern gas station A filling station, gas station or petrol station is a facility that sells fuel for road motor vehicles – usually petrol (US: gas/gasoline), diesel fuel and LPG. The term gas station is mostly particular to the United States of America and Canada, where petrol is known... It has been suggested that this article be split into multiple articles accessible from a disambiguation page. ... A red brick apartment block in central London, England, on the north bank of the Thames An apartment building, block of flats or tenement is a multi-unit dwelling made up of several (generally four or more) apartments (US) or flats (UK). ... This article needs additional references or sources for verification. ... The victim of a confidence game or magic trick is often called the mark, or the vic. ... Disposable income is the total amount of income an individual makes after direct taxes. ...


After the speakermen attract someone, they immediately launch into a loud, fast-paced, and relentless sales pitch. The operators claim that they work for an audio retailer or audio installer, and that, through some sort of corporate error (warehouse operator bookkeeping mistakes, computer glitches, etc.) or due to the client changing the order after supplies were purchased, they have extra speakers. For varying reasons they need to dispose of the speakers quickly and are willing to get rid of them at "well below retail" prices. The con artists will repeatedly state the speaker "value" as anywhere between $1800 and $3000, prices often verified by showing a brochure or a magazine advertisement. They will usually also have an official looking website verifying their claims. Sales, or the activity of selling, forms an integral part of commercial activity. ... Old warehouses in Amsterdam Inside Green Logistics Co. ... It has been suggested that Online bookkeeping be merged into this article or section. ... A computer glitch is the failure of a system, usually containing a computing device, to complete its functions or to perform them properly. ... This article or section needs copy editing for grammar, style, cohesion, tone and/or spelling. ... In economics and business, the price is the assigned numerical monetary value of a good, service or asset. ... A brochure is a flyer or other paper material distributed for the purposes of advertising. ... Generally speaking, advertising is the paid promotion of goods, services, companies and ideas by an identified sponsor. ... A website (alternatively, Web site or web site) is a collection of Web pages, images, videos and other digital assets that is hosted on one or several Web server(s), usually accessible via the Internet, cell phone or a LAN. A Web page is a document, typically written in HTML...


If the mark declines the offer, the speakerguy uses various high-pressure negotiation and sales tactics to change the mark's mind. Among these techniques are producing any other glossy material that details the quality and high retail value of the speakers, and bombarding the potential customer with technical jargon, whether correctly or incorrectly used. If still unable to convince the mark that he is turning down an incredible offer, speakerguy will almost always lower the price immediately, usually to a minimum of $80.(wholesale cost) Some speakermen will even suggest that, since the customer got such a great deal, he should pay a little extra as beer money for his supposed benefactor. Broadly speaking, Negotiation is an interaction of influences. ... To meet Wikipedias quality standards, this article or section may require cleanup. ... Leffe, a Belgian beer, served in branded glasses Schlenkerla Rauchbier straight from the cask Beer is the worlds oldest[1] and most popular[2] alcoholic beverage. ...


After the deal is made, the speakerguys usually high-five each other (high-fives are the unofficial speakerguy handshake) the amount of sets sold. A man and a woman about to High five. ...


Online availability

White van speakers and home theatre systems are now commonly found online, primarily on Craigslist and eBay, prompting revealing reviews showing these speakers to be outclassed by even inexpensive "home theatre in a box" systems sold by legitimate manufacturers. One published reviewer writes: Craigslist is a centralized network of online urban communities, featuring free classified advertisements (with jobs, internships, housing, personals, for sale/barter/wanted, services, community, gigs, resume, and pets categories) and forums sorted by various topics. ... This article is about online auction centre. ... Home cinema, also called Home theater, seeks to reproduce cinema quality video and audio in the home. ...

"Imagine if a peddler of fake Rolexes, or 'Rolex quality' watches posted a website claiming that their junk that cost maybe $50 to manufacture is worth thousands - that is basically the case we have here."
"The internal electronics such as the crossovers, are by far, the absolute worst I've ever seen in nearly 3 decades as a hobbyist. The DiVinci hucksters have the nerve to advertise their 'high energy crossover', which is a $2 piece of junk - a good crossover is complex, not inexpensive, and is critical to sound quality"
"Just for fun, we compared these Kirsch 803 beasts' to a pair of Infinty SM-255's bought off of eBay for $ 300, using both analogue and digital sources, receivers and high end separate electronics. A sound level meter was used to ensure that the listening occured at the same volume level.
One of the girlfriends said it best: "The Kirsch sounded like a clock radio compared to the Infinitys and one thought that a clock radio might sound better. Technical measurements confirmed what our ears told us - a ragged response curve that is the worst I've ever seen, bar none."

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Techniques used

The brand name of the speakers is often confusingly similar to a well-regarded speaker manufacturer. For example, the excellent reputations of manufacturers such as Klipsch, Paradigm, Dahlquist, and Wharfedale are used to sell terrible speakers with fake brand names like Kirsch, Paradyme, Dahlton, and Grafdale. Klipsch Audio Technologies is one of the most successful consumer and professional speaker companies in America. ... Since the late 1960s, the word paradigm (IPA: ) has referred to a thought pattern in any scientific discipline or other epistemological context. ... Wharfedale is one of the Yorkshire Dales. ...


Another recent techinque is to resurrect the names of older companies—for example, Genesis Media Labs is a white van scam name that trades on the old Genesis Physics brand, while DiVinci trades on the name of the Swiss "DaVinci" company, and that company makes some truly incredible claims—as one reviewer wrote:

"I visted recently with an old friend, a leading British audio writer, who upon seeing the eBay ads and the Divinci website first thought it was someone's idea of a joke -- his take in typical British understated fashion -- The claim that this logo was on half the speakers in Britian is rubbish, the products are so poor that they do not even rise to that level (rubbish), and the purveyors are simply scoundrels."

Interestingly, those who initially feel they made out OK soon change their tune: it is easy to find discussion forum threads where the products fail after a brief period of time, and find that the Genesis or DiVinci warranty is worthless. This article is about waste matter. ...


High Definition

Another line that appears is the shock people have when they try to hook up the home theatre system to high definition (HD) sets and find out it cannot be done—the claim of HD compatibility made for the white van system is just another element of the scam. Generally, high-definition refers to an increase in resolution or clarity such as in: High-definition television (HDTV), television formats that have a higher resolution than their contemporary counterparts High-definition video, which is used in HDTV broadcasting, as well as digital film and computer HD video file formats HDV...


One reviewer writes:

"Look at the back of the 2098. Not even component video, much less HDMI, just an S connection (ok for an old VHS VCR) and a single, outdated 'AC-3' connection. It forces you to find a DVD player that still has the Dolby Digital decoder built in -these will usually be older models such as the Sony 400 model, that may lack progressive scan,and the sampling rate will be lower than current players.
As noted the DiVinci video connections are primitive- lack of HDMI or even component video outputs is inexcusable for a $ 389 receiver, much less one that claims to be worth thousands. As if the spoof reviews, awards, and fabricated engineering citations (they should be ticketed for selling the cheapest of Chinese junk) aren't enough, these shysters have the nerve to claim the unit is "HD compatable". This p.o.s. lacks the inputs and outputs necessary to get the advantages of HDTV - the only more absurd and outlandish claim I've seen is for the 'precision Lynxis crossover' in their speakers - which is wired precisely so the 4 driver '4 way' system in effect becomes a 2 way system- absolutely flabbergasting."

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Options for those scammed

Law enforcement officials are usually reluctant to get involved in these transactions because the business is technically legitimate. Employers with proper business licensing often hire independent contractors to sell speakers on the street from white vans. Insist that law enforcement to issue a citation , rarely do the speakermen (independent contractors) obtain the porper permit and lisence to sell "out of a vechile". Also the may want to report them and there current address to the state deptof rev.Dissatisfied buyers from these contractors are usually successful in obtaining a refund, even if locating these workers and their warehouses is seldom easy. Therefore, although the legality of this business model is questionable with regard to trademark infringement, unfair competition, false advertising, and possibly income tax and sales taxevasion, buyers generally have little ability to take direct legal action against even legitimate speaker salesmen. For the band, see The Police. ... Trademark infringement is a violation of the exclusive rights attaching to a registered trademark without the authorisation of the trademark owner or any licensees (provided that such authorization was within the scope of the license). ... Antitrust is also the name for a movie, see Antitrust (movie) Antitrust or competition laws legislate against trade practices that undermine competitiveness or are considered to be unfair. ... This article does not cite its references or sources. ... Tax rates around the world Tax revenue as % of GDP Economic policy Monetary policy Central bank   Money supply Fiscal policy Spending   Deficit   Debt Trade policy Tariff   Trade agreement Finance Financial market Financial market participants Corporate   Personal Public   Banking   Regulation        An income tax is a tax levied on the financial income... A sales tax is a consumption tax charged at the point of purchase for certain goods and services. ... This article contrasts tax evasion, tax avoidance, tax resistance and tax mitigation. ... This article is about law in society. ...


However, there are some things the conned or the simply disappointed can do. A disgruntled buyer may file a complaint with the state Attorney General, alleging that the seller intentionally misled him to believe he was purchasing high quality goods from a reputable manufacturer. The buyer should also send the genuine manufacturer a copy of the letter and file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. A "scambuster" with a local newspaper or television news department might also be interested in hearing the buyer's story. Make sure you contact you local police , so others do not get scammed. A lot of the sale take place in BestBuy, HomeDepot, CircuitCity, and other retail private parking lots with camera's. In most common law jurisdictions, the Attorney General is the main legal adviser to the government, and in some jurisdictions may in addition have executive responsibility for law enforcement or responsibility for public prosecutions. ... The Better Business Bureau (BBB), founded in 1912, is an organization based in the United States and Canada. ...


Brands reported to be sold out of white vans and suvs[1][2]

  • Audiofile
  • Acoustic Monitor
  • Acoustic Response, Acoustic Image, Acoustic Lab Technology
  • Denmark
  • Dogg Digital, Digital Dogg Audio
  • Dahlton
  • Digital Research
  • Divinci
  • Dynalab
  • Epiphany
  • Grafdale
  • Digital Pro Audio, Pro Audio, Digital Audio, Digital Audio Professional Speaker Systems, Digital Audio Skyline Digital Research
  • Epiphany Audio
  • Omni Audio
  • Matrix Audio
  • Protecsound
  • Pro Dynamics
  • Paradyme
  • PSD
  • Theater Research

Brands suspected of being sold out of white vans and suvs

  • DiVinci[citation needed]
  • Genesis Media Labs[citation needed]
  • KEV[citation needed]
  • Kirsch[citation needed]
  • Millennium Theater Systems (MTS)[citation needed]
  • PTS[citation needed]
  • TNA[citation needed]
  • Dan Wave
  • Palermo
  • Elite Audio
  • Premier Acoustics
  • Jannsonn & Fynn

White van products with websites

References

  1. ^ [1] Kuro5hin story
  2. ^ [2] ScamShield Listing

External links

A great deal of information and warnings on the topic of "white van speakers" can be found using search engines. Some of the more informative links include: Google search is the worlds most popular search engine. ...

  • A Kuro5hin story on "The Great International White Van Speaker Scam".
  • This American Life did an episode called Suckers, one segment of which concerned white van speakers.
  • Scamshield entry on white van speakers.
  • Crimes-of-Persuasion.com on Speaker Scams
  • EBay Review of White van brand speakers.
  • http://www.fbaa.us/ -- Fake Better Business Bureau that claims to "certify" these companies (via Archive.org)

This American Life (TAL) is a weekly hour-long radio program produced by Chicago Public Radio. ... Internet Archive, San Francisco The Internet Archive (archive. ...

See also


  Results from FactBites:
 
White van speakers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (396 words)
White van speakers is a scam sales technique in which the buyer is convinced he is getting a good price on merchandise on the premise that it has been stolen.
The van operators set up in a moderately trafficked areas (parking lots, gas stations, large apartment complexes) or even wave people down in heavy traffic, and attempt to attract the attention of suitable targets (usually affluent young men, college students, or other demographics thought to have large amounts of disposable income).
Typically, the actual speakers are of particularly low value, and attempts by a buyer to re-sell the speakers (even at a loss) are often met with derision, especially in on-line communities where the scam is well known.
South Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (6423 words)
Racial strife between the white minority and the fl majority has played a large part in the country's history and politics, culminating in apartheid, which was instituted in 1948 by the National Party, although segregation existed prior to that date.
The white population is on the decrease due to a low birth rate and emigration; as a factor in their decision to emigrate, many cite the high crime rate and the government's affirmative action policies.
There are small groups of speakers of endangered languages, most of which are from the Khoi-San family, that receive no official status; however, some groups within South Africa are attempting to promote their use and revival.
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